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To: Valley Girl who wrote (53220)11/12/2000 7:53:06 PM
From: Dave  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
Before you accuse Gore's party of "disingenous double-speak" you should read the following.

They just completed a hand count of 379 ballots in Bernalillo County, New Mexico, and Bush now leads in New Mexico by four votes. That state is worth five electoral votes.

Here's the kicker... John Dendahl, chairman of the New Mexico Republican Party, "said today that he found no inconsistency in policies toward hand counting in Florida and New Mexico. 'In Florida,' he said, 'there were no allegations that voting machines were unable to read ballots. Here, ballots are designed to be machine readable, but if they can't be and we didn't hand count the votes, those voters would be disenfranchised from the process.' "

See <http://www.nytimes.com/2000/11/12/politics/12RESU.html>.
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But of course, that's exactly what the problem is in Florida. They are doing a hand recount of those ballots that were incorrectly read by the machine.

This national election has been a joke. The New Mexico election was handled even less professionally than the Florida one. In New Mexico county officials actually "found" 67,000 absentee and early ballots by late Wednesday.

After tabulating those 67,000 ballots, Gore was still in the lead. But by Friday, they had found 257 more votes. Get this:

"As county officials began reviewing the 257 found ballots, which produced 152 votes for Mr. Bush and 97 for Mr. Gore, Judy Woodard, the Bernalillo County clerk, said the rejected ballots would not be counted in the state totals.

"Minutes later, she told reporters they would be. About five hours later they produced a net gain of 81 votes that helped Mr. Bush move closer to claiming another state in the attenuated struggle for the presidency."

What the hell? And these same Republicans are complaining about Florida? Obviously the vote-counting system "needs fixed," as they say in Bush's state. Any state whose results might be changed from one candidate to another by counting and recounting until they get it right, owes it to Democracy to do so! If that means that Bush wins, or that Gore wins, so be it, but it would be a absurd not to at least try to get it right!

Dave



To: Valley Girl who wrote (53220)11/12/2000 9:37:13 PM
From: sandeep  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74651
 
Valley Girl, Gore WILL win with a hand recount of these democratic districts. The deal is this - apparently machines regularly undercount ~1-3% votes. So, recounts generate more votes. The leader generally gets most. The more number of times one recounts, more one gets because previously invalid votes become valid due to handling.

What do you expect Bush to do except trying to block hand recount ? Should the recount take place under common rules everywhere ? That could take many months...

Futures traders hate GORE, so should any person with a brain and investments. Futures are down a whole bunch because everybody knows that Bush has been outflanked and Mr. Gore is going to be our next pres.



To: Valley Girl who wrote (53220)11/13/2000 6:29:36 AM
From: Harvey Allen  Respond to of 74651
 
VG- Maybe the election outcome is unimportant to Microsoft. The Chief Software Architect's comments at Comdex makes me think that we're looking at pretty impressive future no matter where the trial goes.

"Some people have had the mistaken notion that in order to make the server
smarter, you need to make the client dumber," Gates said. He added that the
browser-based era of the Internet, in which servers do heavy computational
lifting and PCs merely display rudimentary Web pages, is in decline.


yahoo.cnet.com

I've posted here before my experience with Microsoft's products lately has shown a level of productivity greater than any I've seen before.

As a software developer I can see making and selling very appealing systems with the price of the Microsoft products no factor at all in the buying decision.

So far, injecting politics into the thread has been about the anti-trust case. Now I don't think it matters. I think they've got their business right no matter what the trial's outcome.

Harvey



To: Valley Girl who wrote (53220)11/13/2000 10:28:09 AM
From: PMS Witch  Respond to of 74651
 
...that's a recipe for the majority of the losers to believe the new president is illegitimate...

What! I thought George Sr, and Barbara were married!

Kidding aside, I think you've pointed out the big issue here: Democracy demands the consent of the governed. 50 million people believing their franchise impotent is a recipe for disaster.

Now is the time for statesmanship. If those coveting White House residency cannot muster a little now, they don't inspire much confidence that they will the next time it's needed either.

At a minimum, at least people will have their nose rubbed in the evidence that most, if not all, politicians prize power above all else, including the welfare of the nation.

Cheers, PW.