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To: Frederick Smart who wrote (34853)	11/14/2000 2:41:25 PM
From: PJ Strifas	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 42771

<OT> This is not the place for this but again, you do not seem to grasp the technology completely. I do not think you grasp the idea of "personal directory" which we discuss. You have your own interpretation of it and are confusing it with what we (Scott, Paul, Toy et al) talk about here. In your system, you will still need to store (catalog) the information pointers for all your dispersed data. You call this a "personal directory". Fine. It's not what we're talking about. Question: WHY NOT JUST STORE THE INFORMATION IN THE CATALOG INSTEAD of the ADDRESSES of where that DATA RESIDES? So instead of managing information you want me to manage addresses or links to my information. And you think this is a better system? You want my phone number - check IP addressX You want my home address - check IP AddressY Is that what you are talking about? Because how do you guarantee that information is there? What happens when the system that information resides on goes down? How do you secure that information once you share that IP Address with anyone? How will you allocate IP addresses for EVERY BIT of INFORMATION I may "own" or claim? In your system, you are adding a layer of complexity to the internet that will in the end, complicate it rather than simplify. Regards, Peter J Strifas

To: Frederick Smart who wrote (34853)	11/14/2000 2:56:37 PM
From: kilo_watt	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42771

Fred, I'm as technically savvy as anyone on the board and further am actively "in deep" in terms of new technologies on the internet. I talk to CEOs of startups every week about stuff that the market hasn't even seen. And yet, I cannot personally make even the slightest amount of sense of what you're saying. I get the impression that you have a concept but that you yourself cannot actually understand how that concept might work and therefore can't explain it clearly. This section is particularly unclear: "The net already slices and dices your data into little IP bits and pieces. " --Ok, so this is wrong thinking. The TCP/IP protocol specifies individually identifiable data packets which get routed through an internetwork to their destination. The "Net" doesn't actually do anything active here. "The solution to this is quite simple: after slicing and dicing you just add a third dimension - ie. destination, location, storage address - to the packet. Hundreds, thousands and millions of these new destinations can be added after passing through the original object, filter destination, etc. " --The solution? There's not a problem per se. Further slicing and dicing are not dimensions one and two. If you're talking about adding more information to the packet header you're barking up the wrong tree. The second sentence in this paragraph truly makes no sense whatsoever. Which new destinations? Which original object? Millions of new destination are added after passing through the original filter?? If I didn't know better, I'd swear you were a Scientologist trained in the fine art of doublespeak. "There's a way of optimizing this approach to actually relieve net congestion/traffic. Bottom line, when the slicing, dicing and compression is done, the theory is that you only need 20% of the original fragmented data to restore/retrieve what your requesting." --Optimizing which approach? The approach to relieving net congestion? The approach of adding a "third dimension"? Where did compression come from? You can't compress an IP packet. Further, the IP packet is something like 40% overhead to start with. Finally, you need at least 66% of "fragmented" information to rebuild the remaining 33%. Again, this last sentence is filled with such a huge lack of specificity as to make it virtually incomprehensible. "Again, look at it this way. Current net/storage/directories assume only two legs: 1) the leg requesting data/service and 2) the leg sending data/service. " --I assume you are speaking of the basic architecture of the internet? Cause I'm not sure what you're talking about. Net/storage/directories? Which is it? On the internet the reality is that there is not a two-way virtual circuit. Nothing on the internet "requests". Everything is a one-way push out to the internet. It's a sort of fire-and-forget for packets. Perhaps this is not what you are talking about though. I'm not sure. "I'd argue that the net is about validating the primacy of a theorectical 3rd leg - call this agency, service, risk or value-added leg. This is where these virtual proxies, objects and filters come into play. " --Getting off the deep end here, Fred. You would argue that the net is about validating the primacy of a theoretical 3rd leg? So where did this 3rd leg come from? Is this related to the 3rd dimension of a sliced and diced IP packet? C'mon Fred.. admit, you are speaking right out of your ass here. You don't actually know what you're talking about. "This leg adds a vertical dimension that creates more "freedom" and energy while ensuring more privacy/security. My guess is that the net would sing and get a whole lot more efficient. Perhaps I2 will open some of these new doord. Bi-directional control systems are negated by the simple introduction of this third leg. Fragmented, intelligent storage will be actually more private and secure then current systems. " See you never explained where the 3rd leg came from and how it relates to anything, so how I can ever make the connection about how whatever it is creates more freedom and energy. I think what you are talking about is some sort of like... certificate authority as a constant intermediary. Fred, really you need to 1) come up with some credibility and 2) start speaking English. You're not nearly the most technical, the most business savvy, or the most "internet aware" person on this board, so don't try to pull the wool over anyone's eyes. Pretend I'm a venture guy and you're pitching to me. I want two things: 1) Your 5-word description of your concept ("We're the Ariba of lithography" for instance) and 2) Your elevator pitch. Don't ramble, and make sense about it. You're quickly losing what little audience you have on this board. -k_w-