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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: quasar_1 who wrote (6205)	11/15/2000 4:52:15 PM
From: long-gone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

<<Our leaders reflect the polarization in the country. >> No, one must believe our learers are not polarized as a reflection of of the american people, rather that we have become polarized as a result of ther actions. Is there not class warfare pushed by Gore Clinton? <<Does it truly serve democracy when one side is said to be 'arming themselves' in preparation for a bloodbath if a statistically tied election doesn't go a certain way. >> I all for deciding it by the New Mexico Method - a game of chance - a single hand of 5 card stud perhaps. <<Is it any wonder 'gun control' advocates have appeared>> One should make no mistake, the 2 amendment is a God given right, I right woth fighting & making the other guy die over.

To: quasar_1 who wrote (6205)	11/15/2000 5:09:52 PM
From: Math Junkie	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

Quasar 1, that is one nice piece of writing.

To: quasar_1 who wrote (6205)	11/15/2000 5:32:02 PM
From: dvdw©	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

Quaser1 Very nice prose, your to be congratulated if you wrote it. The difficulty is that 107 million people decided that neither party should be elected, hence we have had for the last 60 years, the minority ruling over the majority. When was the first time; you heard an honest assesment of the electorate? Never! The media is corrupt, it's as simple as that. No one should trust what has become a despicable organ of obfuscation. Leadership within these media conglomorates should take dramatic action to overhaul themselves, they are the problem.But I fear this will not happen, as the addiction to the power and the subjective view of their own elitism, casts the odds against the rest of us. The truth is, if advertising was sold based on the same premise as polling data is promoted ( Not including the non voting majority), advertiser would realize they are being ripped off. 107 million Americans chose NONE OF THE ABOVE, now thats news, but it will never make the headlines, because it's the establishment that is having it's way with all of us. I did not vote despite a year of being assaulted from every angle, many of my neighbors did not vote for either of these two parties either. Our choices were deliberate as a vote cast for one or the other. We the majority are the marginalized, being bullied by the collusion of interests, that is only possible because our media is corrupt. I've heard ABC is calling delegates hypothesizing questions to those charged with completeing the election,posing questions disguised to inform these folks on how to beat the electoral college by switching their vote. There is something big time wrong with this. The nightly news programs leave most of us disgusted, the spin, and the fact that the same pundits over and over are assaulting us day and night with arguments designed to obfuscate our reality. My hope is that people everywhere are doing what I have done, developed thick enough skin so that the manipulation is useless. I have hope, in my own neighborhood 50% of the folks feel just like me. When it's all said and done, we will not allow ourselves to be mariginalized.

To: quasar_1 who wrote (6205)	11/16/2000 4:45:12 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10042

Re: But this is now threatened by a people who vilify and trivialize not only ideas, but the people who express them. We are always at a crossroads in America. We need each other to survive. We call upon this country in times of crisis to rise above petty discourse and bigotry to the greater calling of the Nation. This is the sad thing that is being lost here by both sides. When all is said and done, will we as a Nation be proud of what we say and do here, how we comport ourselves? The early returns are in and it doesn't look promising... It's a landslide victory for hate... Amen! That's quite a vibrant speech of yours.... Pandora's box of hate's been opened --but WHO opened it in the first place? It is my belief that History will judge Al Gore and his hack lawyers as the real culprits who've recklessly broken the spell of the American Democracy. Indeed, that second phone call to Gov. GW Bush by VP Al Gore was in itself a dirty piece of political bathos.... I mean, VP Gore behaved more like some hick punter after the horse race's over than as a statesman running for the top job: Governor Bush? It's me again! Err.... actually, I'm just calling you to retract my congrats.... yeah... you know, the Florida count ain't over yet... so, I guess we'll have to wait for the photo-finish to figure out who's lucked it out --hey, it's about the sake of our Democracy, after all! Ha ha!...Sooo Sorry! Oh, kindly give my best wishes to your dad --CLICK! Such a despicable gamesmanship! Statesmen must not only abide by the written rules and laws of their country, they further have to conform to unwritten rules as well.... At some point, politicking and smear tactics must stop --for the very sake of the political fabric. Especially when it comes to the supreme election, that is, the presidential one. A veil of intimacy must preserve the dignity of the ballot and, ultimately, the dignity of the American voter for History taught us that, as the constituency feels bamboozled by its political elites, far-right populists become the usual "winner-take-all" of a political shambles. Besides, Americans should not be so candid about ballot-rigging and electoral shenanigans. Just take the Vatican Conclave to elect a new Pope: what does the public --and especially the Catholic flock-- know about behind-the-scenes haggling between all the Cardinals? All that's eventually offered to the media is the touching picture of white fumes giving off Saint Peter's square and the usual Habemus Papam! shouted at the crowd, and that's it! Now, imagine what would happen if some disgruntled eminence went on to blow the whistle on the ins and outs of the last papal ballot.... Well, I think the US presidential election is as sacred as the Pope's --nobody'll get nothing out of befouling it. Gus.