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Politics : Why is Gore Trying to Steal the Presidency? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ellen who wrote (1151)	11/18/2000 10:54:29 PM
From: Cola Can	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3887

Until or unless these allegations are proven, I believe the Republicans are employing a very underhanded tactic to try to persuade public opinion that something unethical is going on. LOL! You want people to prove to you the world is round before you believe it? I guess the past evidence doesn't count since it was not established by "democrats." I find it really disburbing that democrats are so full of deceipt that they believe everyone else is low down and under handed like they are. News Flash, They Aren't! Bush said, "Let the votes count declare a winner." Before the absentee ballots began to arrive, Gore cried "lawsuits". Bush could have asked for recounts, but didn't. I guess he thinks more for the welfare of the country than Gore does. And at this point, it isn't about votes, but the mental stability of Gore. The man is not fit to hold any elected office in this country. He isn't mentally fit to lead garbage pickup.

To: Ellen who wrote (1151)	11/18/2000 11:06:09 PM
From: Carolyn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3887

Unethical? Sheesh! The wholesale takeover of our country? Duh!

To: Ellen who wrote (1151)	11/19/2000 1:20:51 AM
From: MasonS	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3887

Ellen...the absentee votes they are talking about are specifically military...because the so-called requirements for these ballots are different...sorry...but these are the ones the Dems particularly wanted thrown out because they normally heavily favor the Republican Party...hence the Republicans certainly don't want them invalidated. The stateside ballots were all counted equally on the night of the election...then in some areas they were recounted if there was a problem...again everything being equal. What is not equal is that there were ballots thrown out in all states...but in Florida...a state the Dems needed to carry...they were ready ahead of time to go into heavily Democratic counties to mine votes...no other way to put it. There were other states...other counties...where there were even larger anomalies...but you don't hear the Democrats worrying about whether those people were disenfranchised or not...what about the rights of those people to have their votes counted? Well...the plain fact is that the Democrats could care less...they don't NEED those votes...so this baloney about every vote counting really means...only if it helps Al Gore win...nothing more nothing less. This is why they don't care about military votes...disgusting...because they won't help Al Gore Win!

To: Ellen who wrote (1151)	11/19/2000 3:55:13 AM
From: James H	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3887

Ellen, I'll wade in here as I just heard a report from a liberal San Francisco station about the "military vote". The ballots in question are military ballots rejected by demo observers. It seems Florida law requires all absentee ballots have a postmark to be valid. Federal law does not require a postmark to be a valid ballot. Many times the military postal clerks collect the mail up until the time mail is picked up on ship and very often won't take the time to postmark outbound mail. As ships at sea have to be very flexible, collection times are on short notice and it's quite conceivable that many ballots will not have a postmark. So to answer your question, the specific ballots in question are military absentee ballots and they were tossed out on the postmark technicality by demo observers. Regards

To: Ellen who wrote (1151)	11/19/2000 8:25:08 AM
From: scott_jiminez	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 3887

Ellen - you are to be commended for attempting to interject some degree of balance into the discussion...prior to being swamped, once again, by highly partisan responses. It should come as no surprise - and it is indeed revealing - that the central protagonists on this thread, Mason, Carolyn F, and Brian, did not repond to my previous post Message 14840895 (someone stated last night, 'The American people are out of patience with this Democratic BS., and are ready to take their country back.'. Of course, 'The American people are out of patience with this Republican BS., and are ready to take their country back.' is equally valid. And then we have the comments about Warren Christopher being 'an old fart'. Of course Jim Baker stands shoulder-to-shoulder with Christopher on this elegant depiction...and on virtually all other characterizations. This discussion goes on and on and...and OBVIOUSLY no one is EVER going to 'win' - whatever that means. No winner ever, NEVER. FOLKS, THIS ELECTION WAS A TIE. A TIE!) Once again, if ALL of us can't move beyond this discussion of minutia to a discourse on reconciliation, NONE of us HAVE ANY RIGHT to blame the politicians for the resultant ‘gridlock’. Thus far I can't find one scintilla of evidence on this thread, especially among the protagonists noted above, of meaningful attempts to shed partisan stances. Clearly neither Al Gore nor George Bush are responsible, nor will be responsible, for the inability of this country to make amends. It's OUR responsibility to come together...and thus far we're ALL continuing to behave like spoiled, bratty children.