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To: md1derful who wrote (84920)	11/22/2000 12:34:30 PM
From: Timothy W. Johnson	Respond to of 769670

12:31 PALM BEACH JUDGE TO RULE FOR INCLUSION OF 'DIMPLED CHADS' AT 4:30 ET - MSNBC

To: md1derful who wrote (84920)	11/22/2000 1:04:37 PM
From: DMaA	Respond to of 769670

You Fl folks may as well scrap your voting machines, they'll never be used again. It is a self evident fact that hand counting will increase the number of votes counted, and approximately in proportion to the percentages in the machine count. That is why Gore demanded a hand count in the counties he won. Fl. legislators anticipated this abuse and wrote the laws to avoid it. Your Supreme Court just threw those laws out. So, from now in, it's hand counting all the way.

To: md1derful who wrote (84920)	11/22/2000 1:05:42 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

doc, I don't know the history of the Florida Supreme Court. I have mostly heard Republicans accuse it of being appointed by Democrats, which is undeniable but does not necessarily make it very liberal. I think this decision was too restrained, too conservative if you like. They merely interpreted conflicting statutes so as to permit the requested manual recounts to continue and be counted. They should have set a uniform standard for the recounts, given the extraordinary circumstances. This would clearly have meant removing control from the local canvassing boards.

To: md1derful who wrote (84920)	11/22/2000 1:15:00 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

Nadine..fair enough...I'd be willing to suspect that most of us would have agreed to hand counting, in the name of fairness if the standards were set uniformly BEFORE THE ELECTION... doc, that is fair enough too. I would have no objection to the Republican objections if they had really been objecting just to a lack of standards. If that was what they objected to, they had opportunities to correct it, and they chose not to use them. I think their actions have shown that they have been trying to delegitimize manual recounts under any circumstances. The lack of uniform standards is just one more weapon to use in the attack.