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To: hmaly who wrote (20243)	11/22/2000 5:41:58 PM
From: niceguy767	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

hmaly: P4 is a bust and the Celery is a bust according to the previous article at Tom's...The only place INTC can hide currently is in the server and mobile spaces...Not much longer though... Conclusion (from Tom's) The 766MHz Celeron takes a beating at the hands of the 800MHz AMD Duron. The Duron doesn't merely smack the Celeron here and there, but pounds it into the dust in almost every benchmark. What makes this massacre even uglier is that the 800MHz Duron is available for under $100, while the 766MHz Celeron has been announced to sell at $170 in lots of 1000. If the Celeron were more competitive with the Duron, then it would be dangerously close to the PIII in performance, but because the PIII cannot ramp to higher speeds on the current process, and because Intel realizes the importance of trying to maintain clock speed parity with the Duron which is approaching 1GHz, Intel must significantly cripple the Celeron's performance making the budget chip pitifully slow compared to its AMD rival, Duron. Returning to our Celeron versus Duron match, it was a pitiful contest. The Duron mopped the floor with the Celeron while not even breaking a sweat. With the arrival of cheap, integrated Athlon/Duron motherboards just around the corner, the last stronghold of the PIII/Celeron is under siege. An Athlon/Duron system continues to have significant price advantages at the processor level while motherboard costs are now either at or below similar boards supporting Intel processors. Intel, still the world's largest maker of x86 microprocessors, is in an unenviable position. For its fastest Celerons to even begin to compete with the quicker Durons, the chip titan will have to open up the puny 66MHz FSB, but this can currently only be done at the risk of its own profits on PIIIs. Intel finally plans to produce 100MHz FSB Celerons next year, but even this may not be enough to compete with the 200MHz FSB Durons - and this does not even consider the fact that DDR SDRAM motherboards are slowly becoming available for the Duron which should boost overall performance even higher. So who should think about purchasing the 766MHz Celeron? In a few words, no one right now. Potential system buyers would find significantly greater performance at considerably lower prices by going with the 800MHz AMD Duron. Owners of Socket 370 motherboards wishing to upgrade to a faster Celeron would find a much better bargain in opting for Intel's 733MHz Celeron. In fact, according to Intel's own information, the 766MHz Celeron offers only a one percent performance gain on productivity applications over the 733MHz Celeron. This lack of scalability is in part due to the terribly unbalanced 66MHz FSB that we have had to revisit many times in this review. The 766MHz Celeron is a seriously out of balance solution that should only be opted for if its pricing is considerably lower than its AMD rivals. ----------------------------------------------------------If all goes as I see it, Tom'll be able to insert P4 for Celeron and Palomino for Duron, and rerun the same page before very long!!!

To: hmaly who wrote (20243)	11/22/2000 5:43:12 PM
From: Bill Jackson	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 275872

hmaly, P-4=Cooked goose. My earlier comments were a bit too charitable. just read the P-4 revue at Tom's. Call the gravediggers, arrange for the Palbearers, perhaps Paul will be one. Alert the chip gulag....the P-4 is snakebit and doomed to die. Dell now must go AMD or they will be bit by the same snake. Bill