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Politics : Electoral College 2000 - Ahead of the Curve -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: jttmab who wrote (4005)	11/30/2000 10:25:05 AM
From: Bill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6710

Mr. Nickel, You seem to specialize in gibberish. Get back to me when you can complete a thought and properly construct a sentence. Regards, Bill

To: jttmab who wrote (4005)	11/30/2000 10:39:12 AM
From: chomolungma	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6710

That's as puerile and worthless a post as I've ever read. I'll chalk this one up to anger that things aren't going your way. One more and you go on ignore.

To: jttmab who wrote (4005)	11/30/2000 11:08:10 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 6710

jttmab, just a friendly observation - Even though I am a conservative Republican, I've had e-bill on "Ignore" for a while. This thread has, by some miracle, mostly avoided the petty arguments that characterize other political threads, and it would be nice if it stayed that way. The news media following the election have been reduced to following the ballot convoy via helicopter and running stories about the news media coverage of the election. So it's all winding down, all the easy to understand stuff and all the sensational stuff. People who want to focus on easy stuff and sensational stuff are looking for excitement. Let's not give it to them. (By the way, I was not offended by the reference to Bob Dole using Viagra. I will just observe that Liddy Dole seems happy, so I don't think there is any down side to any man using it if it helps. I guess no man likes to admit that he needs Viagra, so I think Bob Dole has a lot of guts. Being able to please your wife is something to be proud of, in my opinion. And we are all getting older, all the time.)

To: jttmab who wrote (4005)	11/30/2000 12:50:12 PM
From: Windsock	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6710

Re: "Admit your problem, like Bob did, and take his advice. It's nothing to be ashamed of. Here is something that may help them get "it" up, even if it is only their outrage. "From an article in which a Zimbabwean politician was quoted as saying that children should study this event closely for it shows that election fraud is not only a third world phenomenon... 1. Imagine that we read of an election occurring anywhere in the third world in which the self-declared winner was the son of the former prime minister and that former prime minister was himself the former head of that nation's secret police (cia). 2. Imagine that the self-declared winner lost the popular vote but won based on some old colonial holdover (electoral college) from the nation's pre-democracy past. 3. Imagine that the self-declared winner's 'victory' turned on disputed votes cast in a province governed by his brother! 4. Imagine that the poorly drafted ballots of one district, a district heavily favoring the self-declared winner's opponent, led thousands of voters to vote for the wrong candidate. 5. Imagine that members of that nation's black minority, fearing for their lives/livelihoods, turned out in record numbers to vote in near-universal opposition to the self-declared winner's candidacy. 6. Imagine that hundreds of members of that nation's black minority were intercepted on their way to the polls by state police operating under the authority of the self-declared winner's brother. 7. Imagine that six million people voted in the disputed province and that the self-declared winner's 'lead' was only 537 votes. Fewer, certainly, than the vote counting machines' margin of error. 8. Imagine that the self-declared winner and his political party opposed a more careful by-hand inspection and recounting of the ballots in the disputed province or in its most hotly disputed district. 9. Imagine that the self-declared winner, himself a governor of a major province, had the worst human rights record of any province in his nation and actually led the nation in executions. 10. Imagine that a major campaign promise of the self-declared winner was to appoint like-minded human rights violators to lifetime positions on the high court of that nation. None of us would deem such an election to be representative of anything other than the self-declared winner's will-to-power. All of us, I imagine, would wearily turn the page thinking that it was another sad tale of pitiful pre- or anti-democracy peoples in some strange land elsewhere."