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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (2463)1/13/2001 9:57:17 AM
From: Mephisto  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 4583
 
I don't believe Ashcroft can separate "his religious beliefs" from "his job." There is suppose to be a separation of church and state. From the information that I've read, Ashcroft has never demonstrated that he could do it.

One of the reasons cited for Ashcroft's defeat of Ronnie White for Federal Judge was that White was against Ashcroft's anit-abortion laws in Missouri.



To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (2463)1/13/2001 10:45:04 AM
From: Mephisto  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 4583
 
Ashcroft's speech at college stirs controversy
From the Los Angeles Times

By David G. Savage
Times Staff Writer

January 13, 2001 8:07 AM CST

WASHINGTON -- Stressing the role of religion in the nation's history, attorney general nominee John Ashcroft told students at a conservative Christian college in 1999 that America was founded on the belief that "we have no king but Jesus."

"Unique among the nations, America recognized the source of our character as being godly and eternal, not (as) being civic and temporal," Ashcroft told the audience at Bob Jones University in Greenville, S.C. "America has been
different. We have no king but Jesus."

In his brief remarks, the Missouri Republican stressed the importance of Christianity as the source of American law, culture and character. His comments, released by Senate Democrats late Friday, are likely to raise new questions about whether or how his deeply held religious beliefs might influence his performance as the nation's chief law enforcement officer.

Ashcroft, son of a Pentecostal minister, has said before that religious beliefs infuse every aspect of his life, "INCLUDING POLITICS."


Debate about the proper role of religion is as old as the nation itself.

While some of the nation's founders saw religious faith as the bedrock upon which everything rested, others stressed the importance of separation between church and state. Both religion and government flourished when the two were kept separate, they said.

In his 1999 remarks, made while accepting an honorary degree, Ashcroft said he believed that Christian faith was central to the nation's founding. He said that a rallying cry of the American Revolution against the British monarchy
was, "We have no king but Jesus." This call "found its way into the fundamental documents of this great country," he continued.

While the Declaration of Independence does not speak of Jesus, it says that the rights of all Americans are "endowed by their Creator."

Ashcroft said he believes that laws and civil authority cannot take the place of a religious order founded upon faith.


"There's a difference between a culture that has no king but Caesar, no standard but the civil authority, and a culture that has no king but Jesus, no standard but the eternal authority," he said. One leads to "criminality, destruction, thievery, the lowest and the least," he said. "When you have no king but Jesus, you release the eternal, you release the highest and best, you release virtue, you release potential."

His critics are likely to focus on his praise for the university where he spoke.

For much of its history, Bob Jones University practiced racial segregation. And even after it admitted black students, it maintained until recently a ban on interracial dating. Ashcroft said last year that, when he accepted the degree, he was not aware of the university's controversial views.

"I thank God for this institution," Ashcroft said, adding that he was honored to appear along with Reps. Asa Hutchinson, R-Ark., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., two leaders of the House's impeachment of President Clinton.

Bob Jones, founder of the university, said on CNN's "Larry King Live" that Ashcroft was given the honorary degree because he was the first senator to call for Clinton's resignation in the wake of the Monica S. Lewinsky scandal.

"That was a courageous thing in our estimation," Jones said on CNN.

The Senate will open hearings on Ashcroft's nomination Tuesday and Democrats said that they will question their former colleague about his speech.

"Bob Jones University has become a symbol of divisiveness and intolerance in our society," said Sen. Patrick J. Leahy, D-Vt., the committee's chairman until Republicans take control of the Senate on Jan. 20. "The committee will want to explore whether Sen. Ashcroft's views have changed since he proudly accepted the university's honorary degree."

Elliot Mincberg, legal director for People for the American Way, a liberal group that opposes the nomination, said he was surprised that Ashcroft invoked God's name to praise Bob Jones University.

"For someone who takes his religious belief seriously, it seems shocking he would thank God for an institution that has such a history of religious and racial bigotry," Mincberg said. "I also think it is troubling for someone who wants to be attorney general to blur the line separating church and state."


But a spokesman for President-elect George W. Bush noted that Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, D-Conn., the Democratic candidate for vice president, frequently had spoken of the importance of his religious faith.

"Faith is an important part of the fabric of our society," said Ari Fleischer, Bush's spokesman.

sns.chicagotribune.com



To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (2463)1/13/2001 10:47:40 AM
From: Mephisto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4583
 
GIVE JOHN ASHCROFT THE GRILLING HE
GAVE OTHERS

From The Chicago Tribune

January 7, 2001

WASHINGTON Now that George W. Bush
has nominated Sen. John Ashcroft (R-Mo.) to be
U.S. attorney general, it would not be
inappropriate for his fellow senators to treat him
as fairly as he treated Judge Ronnie White.

In other words, will they tar him as an extremist?
Will they roast him, not for his personal qualifications, which is what
confirmation hearings are supposed to be about, but for his personal beliefs?
Will they paint him as an extremist and distort his record without giving him an
opportunity to respond?

That was how Ashcroft handled President Clinton's nomination of Judge
Ronnie White to the federal bench. Civil-rights groups are particularly angry
that Ashcroft led the successful party-line fight to defeat White.

Ashcroft painted White's opinions as "the most anti-death-penalty judge on
the Missouri Supreme Court" and that his record was "outside the court's
mainstream."

White can hardly be called "pro-criminal or outside the mainstream." Court
records show White actually voted to uphold death sentences in 41 out of 59
capital cases that came before him on the Missouri Supreme Court. In most
of the other cases he voted with the majority of his fellow justices, including
those appointed by Ashcroft when Ashcroft was governor.

In fact, three Ashcroft appointees voted to REVERSE the death penalty more
times than White did.


<b? On the Senate floor, Ashcroft singled out two of the three death-penalty
cases in which White was the sole dissenter. In one of them, White
questioned whether the defendant's right to effective counsel had been
violated. You don't have to be "pro-criminal" to value the rights of the
accused, especially in a death-penalty case.

In the other, White questioned whether the lower court judge, Earl L.
Blackwell, of Jefferson County, was biased and should have recused himself
from a trial that began the morning after Blackwell issued a controversial
campaign statement.

The judge, (BLACKWELL) explaining in a press release why he had switched to the
Republican Party, said "The truth is that I have noticed in recent years that the
Democrat Party places far too much emphasis on representing minorities,
such as homosexuals, people who don't want to work and people with a skin
that's any color, but white."

Again, the judge has the right to express his views but you don't have to be an
extremist to understand why White, the first African-American to sit on the
Missouri Supreme Court, might question that judge's evenhandedness.


Ashcroft delayed and opposed other nominations he did not like to the
judicial and the executive branches. Most prominent was Bill Lann Lee, who
was named to his post as assistant U.S. attorney general for civil rights by
President Clinton as a recess appointment, avoiding the need for Senate
confirmation. Ashcroft did not like Lee's support of affirmative action (this
sentence as published has been corrected in this text).

Ashcroft also was not satisfied with Dr. David Satcher's pledge to avoid using
his office of surgeon general to promote his pro-choice views on abortion.
Earlier Ashcroft helped block Dr. Henry Foster's nomination to the same post
on the same issue.


Ashcroft, along with Sen. Jesse Helms (R-N.C.) successfully blocked a floor
vote to confirm James Hormel to be ambassador to Luxembourg, after he
was approved 16-2 in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Neither
Helms nor Ashcroft approved of the fact Hormel was gay and a prominent
advocate of gay rights.

To charge that Ashcroft is a bigot, as some have done, misses the point. He
has a right to express strong views without being called names. He has a right
to oppose affirmative action and gay rights. He has a right to favor a "right to
life" until someone has been sentenced to death.

But he does not have a right to be U.S. attorney general. Therefore, it is not
surprising that the four pillars of the liberal establishment--civil rights, abortion
rights, organized labor and environmental protection--have begun to rally
opposition to Ashcroft's confirmation.

Why, they ask, should this country have an attorney general who opposes
sensitive laws he is supposed to enforce?


Ashcroft will have a chance to answer that question in his confirmation
hearings. The Senate will let him offer his side of the story. That's more than
Ashcroft gave Ronnie White.

chicagotribune.com