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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (3953)	1/30/2001 11:47:25 AM
From: MulhollandDrive	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

X, You said: "I don't find the environmental devastation of the third world moral.<< And previously you said: "To:Poet who wrote (3454) From: X the Unknown Wednesday, Jan 24, 2001 4:24 PM Respond to of 3552 It is good for us strategically as well as good for us environmentally to keep our natural reserves as long as possible. The technology becomes safer and cleaner every year. We gain a lot by buying or oil from other countries while oil is still relatively cheap- and I think that is what we should be doing. " The only reason why oil from other countries is "still relatively cheap" is because it is still profitable for countries without onerous environmental regulations to drill. And logic would lead you to conclude that the lack of tight regulations would be the main contributor to "environmental devastation. Are you advocating that our industries assume immoral business practices because it is good "strategically" and keeps our fuel prices relatively low?

To: epicure who wrote (3953)	1/30/2001 12:41:35 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I have a personal concern for US workers, I have a general humanitarian concern for offshore workers. The two issues are related- because companies that don't want to abide by environmental regulations, that don't want to provide safe working conditions, that don't want to pay a living US wage- go elsewhere. They not only take jobs from the US that our uneducated citizens could have, they go and poison other countries environments, they go and exploit labor in other countries, they do whatever they can to maximize profits- morality has nothing to do with it. I agree that morality has little or nothing to do with it, however Americans not buying goods from workers who work in poor conditions for very little pay will not make the conditions and pay better for most of them. It will instead mean that most of them either have no jobs, or work in even worse conditions for even less pay to provide goods and services for the local market only. Are American companies exploiting workers in Asia? That would depend on exactly what you mean by exploit, but the jobs they provide make things better for their employees not worse. Tim