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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TimF who wrote (4447)	2/2/2001 4:16:32 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Basically yes. OK. That was expected. I'm cool with it. Let me ask you this--are you even a little bit uncomfortable asserting that your truth trumps my truth just because it's yours? A second question. Just for the sake of argument, let's say that a series of studies pretty conclusively demonstrates that human population growth will destroy our world within 20 years. That's "massive justification," isn't it? I know it's far fetched, but I'm trying to figure out if there's anything that trumps the protection of fetuses. Would that change your view of abortion? Karen

To: TimF who wrote (4447)	2/2/2001 4:35:04 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

BTW, a few days ago you mentioned the difference between justice and vengeance. There's been so much going on here that I never got around to addressing it. But I did think of you the night before last when I saw the Star Trek Voyager episode about the planet where the victims determined the perp's sentence. Did you see it? Karen

To: TimF who wrote (4447)	2/2/2001 5:44:25 PM
From: E	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

<<<<Are you going to say that the abortion issue is different because people want to murder innocent children? Surprise me, please. <g> Basically yes. I could make it more complex but it boils down to that. I said in my post "That I don't think it is just for the government to control people and their lives to such an extent without massive justification." The rights and lives of the unborn are in this case the massive justification. Tim >>>> Famine will take millions of them. A slow and hideous death. Disease. War. Brutality. Neglect. That, to you, is less "massive justification" than your religious zeal to force pregnant women to carry an embryo until it becomes a sentient being. Suffering counts for nothing in your construct. Your personal concept of a "soul" in each fertilized egg counts for everything, and justifies, in your words, "for the government to control people and their lives."