SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Gold/Mining/Energy : Strictly: Drilling and oil-field services -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: cnyndwllr who wrote (87456)2/16/2001 1:21:08 PM
From: excardog  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 95453
 
SOB iso did you guys write this article:

Small-cap US natural gas stocks vulnerable after big gains
By Thi Nguyen

NEW YORK, Feb. 16 (Reuters) - Shares of even the most obscure U.S. natural gas producers have shot up on the back of record gas prices, but money managers warn many have peaked for now.

These stocks are unlikely to rise further because many have already more than doubled since December and many natural gas customers have switched to other fuels, money managers said on Friday. In addition, U.S. gas prices have leveled to around $6 per thousand cubic feet (mcf), down from an all-time high of over $10 per mcf late last year, they added.

``The easy money has certainly been made,'' said Tim Ghriskey, a portfolio manager with Dreyfus Fund who helps manage $4 billion in assets. ``Given that natural gas and commodity prices have come down and given that these stocks have gone up so far and so fast, I think they are very vulnerable in the short term.''

For the same period, other small-cap oil and gas companies also surged on increased natural gas prices. Dallas-based independent energy company Remington Oil and Gas (NasdaqNM:ROIL - news) surged 71 percent, while Cabot Oil & Gas (NYSE:COG - news), a production company with 95 natural gas exposure, has jumped 43 percent.

``Natural gas has been a premium fuel not sold at a premium price for a long time,'' said Alan Ackerman, chief market strategist at Fahnestock & Cock, who started to recommend Tengasco from October. ``Now natural gas stocks are attracting lots of attention because the price is at a premium due to short supply.''

``Buyers of these stocks are stimulated as companies are expected to deliver gas at prices that are good for them,'' said Ackerman, who also likes independent oil and gas company Ocean Energy Inc. (NYSE:OEI - news), which gained 42 percent since Dec. 1.

A lot of energy-consuming companies have been switching to other fuels, which will contribute to the vulnerability of natural gas stocks in the short term, said Ghriskey. Ghriskey's fund owns natural gas stocks Anadarko Petroleum Corp. (NYSE:APC - news) and Williams Cos Inc. (NYSE:WMB - news), which gained 12 percent and 24 percent, respectively.

A special case is Knoxville, Tenn.-based oil and gas firm Tengasco Inc. (AMEX:TGC - news), which has gained 75 percent since Dec. 1. The company, which has a market value of only about $135 million, plans to announce in early March it has completed the only natural gas pipeline in Tennessee, Chief Executive M.E. Ratliff, who has a 37 percent stake in the company, told Reuters on Thursday.

That will help put Tengasco into the black this year for the first time ever, investors said.

``I suspect the stock will go higher at least in two or three more years,'' said Ed Gray, managing director at White Oak Capital Management Inc. which has $800 million under asset management and holds about $1.49 million worth of shares in Tengasco.

White Oak also owns shares in other natural gas-related businesses including Kinder Morgan Inc. (NYSE:KMI - news), a major U.S. natural gas retailer and pipeline owner; Houston energy company El Paso Corp. (NYSE:EPG - news) and Pittsburgh energy provider Equitable Resources (NYSE:EQT - news). The stocks have gained 33 percent, 17 percent, and 7 percent, respectively since Dec. 1.

Tengasco on March 8 will announce that it has completed its 63-mile (100 km) pipeline and will start delivering natural gas from its Swan Creek Field, Tengasco's Ratliff said.

Among other clients, Tengasco said it has signed a 20-year contract with Eastman Chemical Co.(NYSE:EMN - news) to supply about $20 million worth of gas a year, or 80 percent of natural gas the world's largest supplier of plastic packaging will need.

The only brokerage analyst who covers Tengasco, Mark Michelsen at St. Louis-based Kenny Securities, estimated that revenue for 2001 will jump to about $35 million, mainly from natural gas, from about $6 million last year.

Michelsen estimated the company's earnings per share this year at $1.99, compared with a loss of 6 cents a share last year, and set a price target of $20 for the end of the year.

In the long term, natural gas stocks should be good investments because demand will continue to remain quite high, said Dreyfus' Ghriskey.

``Corporations and users of energy want to be less dependent on oil and things like OPEC,'' said Ghriskey, referring to the organization of oil exporters that controls a large part of world's supply of oil. ``And the fact that natural gas is more environment-friendly than crude oil will help as well.''

Ghriskey expected acquisitions to take place with natural gas companies which should benefit small-cap natural gas stocks.



To: cnyndwllr who wrote (87456)2/16/2001 1:45:41 PM
From: Area51  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95453
 
Rules? Do we have rules here (other than try and make yourself look as good as possible and your antagonists look as bad as possible)? Even with all the shortcomings the signal to noise ratio is still better than the average thread.

If we can put in a higher NASDAQ low on the Nortel news I think it will be a good sign. When retail investors start thinking that "technology is dead forever" is probably a great time to buy.

I added a small amount of ACTM (jim_p pick from earlier). Although I think NT is a 15% customer which on the surface would explain the 15% decline, I don't think NT will completely stop doing business with ACTM.

Thanks for the entertaining post,
Area51

BTW contrary to the fox news entertainment piece last night it is not true that the video feeds for the lunar landings originated from Area 51 <gg>.



To: cnyndwllr who wrote (87456)2/16/2001 1:50:48 PM
From: The Ox  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 95453
 
Here's the facts as I see them. Retail investors are getting flushed out of the tech market. Those stocks have a long way to
fall, no matter what the technical indicators say, because the worst fears of smart money are beginning to come true. The
economy is starting to feed on itself in an ever increasing downward cycle of negative factors and the fed has no cure
because of energy induced stagflation. There is NO GOOD NEWS on the near horizon. Earnings warnings will start again
soon and there is nothing to indicate that earnings will improve for most areas of the tech economy. Bounces will get
weaker and weaker. The most cautious investors and those who have the mentality to short will prevail. When mutual fund
redemptions have started, accelerated and then stopped, a recovery is possible but long term, the key is affordable and
available energy.


This kind of commentary makes me think of the patch in the winter of 98/99....(no, I won't search through posts to pull out old comments by folks on this thread). There was no light at the end of the tunnel. There was only one direction the patch would go, slowly down into the abyss. It was only a matter of time before $5 oil was a reality and we would be awash with cheap energy forever. There was little reason to buy and hold patch stocks because there really wasn't any future for most companies. No matter how you sliced it, the patch was at best dead money and most probably a terrible investment. I'm damn glad we didn't get stuck buying oil stocks back then.

As to the future fundies in tech land. Many of the companies that are warning of slow downs are still growing entities. Valuations are suspect. Forward guidance is cloudy at best which adds to the worries of most market followers. Inflation. Layoffs. Sour sentiment. Never ending high energy prices. Pretty soon, we'll be reading about how the Sun is starting to run out of fuel and we'll all be left in the dark.

I'm so scared, I can't believe I actually have to leave the house now and then.....



To: cnyndwllr who wrote (87456)2/16/2001 3:39:47 PM
From: isopatch  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95453
 
OT/eddy. Wouldn't try to compete with

ole Q in the BS department that's for sure. I'd lose that one hands down, lol.

Now that I've read the 1st post since you went on ignore 2 months ago, it reminds me why. So back you go.

Bye!

Isopatch



To: cnyndwllr who wrote (87456)2/17/2001 2:51:16 AM
From: energyplay  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95453
 
Someone recently calculated the Naz 100 P/E as 781....

(that number is about 5 days old, BTW)

Over all S&P is about 22, historical p/e 's run 12 to 18, and 20 -35 for "Growth" stocks
A 781 P/E to say 25 P/E -----

That's a LLLONG way to fall

I will predict the market will move down in stair steps, clunk, clunk, clunk.
With each landing suckering in people...
[ notice a total lack of originality here- the market kinda moved UP in stair steps ]
We probabaly won't see the beautiful parabolic dives we saw in VertricalNet (VERT) back in the spring

Thinking about buying long term tech index puts (QQQ, SOX, IAH)

Question for the thread -
Any good gold stocks priced above $15 so they can be margined ?