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To: pat mudge who wrote (220)2/16/2001 3:22:33 PM
From: k_maxwell  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3294
 
<<<<<The whole networking group is being shot with this Nortel news, yet interestingly enough if one reads Nortel's words, their problem is in SONET and with legacy based Telcos, not the all-optical area. Thus the opportunity I see that the market does not by not distinguishing between optical and SONET based companies.>>>>>

Which is actually what Gilder has been saying for years: SONET is ultimately doomed; CSCO and its routers, as well as the "copper cages" of the old telco establishment will be supplanted by the all-optical network, piece by piece, from the edge inward.



To: pat mudge who wrote (220)2/16/2001 3:41:33 PM
From: Tulvio Durand  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3294
 
... Companies like LU, NT, and CSCO will succeed in direct correlation to their agility in moving from legacy products to all-optical. I still believe NT is better positioned than the other two.

Pat, I am surprised you rate NT higher than CSCO in this comparison. I thought legacy products belonged primarily to LU and NT. CSCO's business is too new to have much in the way of legacy products. Please explain. Also today's market is indicating otherwise as NT and all-optical JDSU are down 30 and 20%, respectively, v. 7% down for CSCO. Thanks.

Tulvio



To: pat mudge who wrote (220)2/16/2001 3:57:21 PM
From: Jack Hartmann  Respond to of 3294
 
Pat, the SSB note on NT, pulled a favor to get it.
SSB was critical on NT CC last night.
Nortel Networks Corp. (NT)
NT: Preannouncement-New Guidance Still Too High-But 1H (Buy, High Risk)
NT Likely Hitting Trough Va Mkt Cap: $91,191.3 mil.

February 16, 2001 SUMMARY
* Nortel sharply cuts its outlook for 1Q and full year
TELECOMMUNICATIONS with Nortel guidance of a $0.04 loss for 1Q and full
EQUIPMENT year at roughly $0.80 per share.
B. Alexander * Cutting 2001 estimates to $0.68 per share compared to
Henderson official management guidance of $0.80 per share.
Reducing price target to $50.
* Management indicates market growth slowed sharply and
Timothy Anderson they now expect 10% industry wide down from a prior
expectation of 20% plus.
* Management states metro optical growth continues
Daryl Armstrong strong and long haul optical slows to 20% plus from
closer to 40%.
* Nortel to cut 10,000 from headcount with 6,000 going
this quarter, we estimate this benefit at $1 billion on
a annualized basis pretax or a roughly $0.15 benefit
during 2001 and another $0.05 in 2002.
* Maintaining Buy, we are at a trough in the economy and
this is the time to set up not the time to back away,
but the overly aggressive guidance is an issue.

FUNDAMENTALS
P/E (12/01E) 43.5x
P/E (12/02E) 26.9x
TEV/EBITDA (12/01E) 24.9x
TEV/EBITDA (12/02E) 14.6x
Book Value/Share (12/01E) $7.24
Price/Book Value 4.1x
Dividend/Yield (12/01E) $0.00/0.0%
Revenue (12/01E) $34,617.0 mil.
Proj. Long-Term EPS Growth 30%
ROE (12/01E) NA
Long-Term Debt to Capital(a) 11.1%
NT is in the S&P 500(R) Index.
(a) Data as of most recent quarter
SHARE DATA RECOMMENDATION
Price (2/14/01) $29.55 Current Rating 1H
52-Week Range $83.88-$29.55 Prior Rating 1H
Shares Outstanding(a) 3,086.0 mil. Current Target Price $50.00
Convertible No Previous Target Price $60.00
EARNINGS PER SHARE
FY ends 1Q 2Q 3Q 4Q Full Year
12/00A Actual $0.12A $0.18A $0.18A $0.26A $0.74A
12/01E Current ($0.04)E $0.15E $0.22E $0.34E $0.68E
Previous $0.16E $0.23E $0.24E $0.34E $0.98E
12/02E Current $0.18E $0.24E $0.26E $0.42E $1.10E
Previous $0.24E $0.29E $0.30E $0.41E $1.25E
12/03E Current NA NA NA NA NA

Previous NA NA NA NA NA
First Call Consensus EPS: 12/01E $0.96; 12/02E $1.21; 12/03E NA
NORTEL PREANNOUNCES AND LOWERS GUIDANCE
After the Cisco prerelease, we started working on cutting estimates on a
number of companies including Nortel. We moved too slowly. We thought we
had enough time to methodically talk to each of the companies and revisit the
models. Cisco indicated business fell off dramatically in January. We
figured most of the companies which reported early in January such as Extreme
and Foundry had probably set the bar too high. We also figured this would
be the case with Nortel. However, we didn't expect such a swift adjustment
in Nortel's guidance. As a result they have forced our hand a little sooner
than we had expected. We are cutting our estimates on Nortel with this write
up, and we are also posting a separate industry note which is addressing the
estimates, target prices and rating on the other companies in our coverage.
Management Expects A $0.04 Loss In CY 1Q on flat revenues--But We Strongly
Believe This Is The Time To Be Looking Hard And Buying NT Shares. Nortel's
management indicated they expect 1Q results to come in at a loss of $0.04 per
share compared to our prior forecast of $0.16 per share. Revenues for the
quarter are expected to come in flat at $6.3 billion down from our prior
estimate of $8.1 billion. This quarterly earnings reduction alone takes
$0.20 per share out of the estimates.
With these estimate cuts, we think Nortel has finally discounted all of the
bad news. We think the stock will hit its cyclical lows either today or over
the next week.. We made this same argument with Cisco last week. We believe
we are at the troughing period in the economic cycle. Over the next two or
three quarters, the economic slowdown will likely be played out. But stocks
have already discounted this event. Long before the economic conditions
improve, we expect stocks to start to move higher. We think this is the time
to buy the best in class names.
* Sharp Decline In U.S. Sales Offset By Strong International Results.

Management stated they expected 1Q industry wide sales to be off at least

20% in the United States with robust international results offsetting the

sharp decline in domestic sales.
* Optical Sales Expected To Slow With Strong Metro And Sharply Slowing Long

Haul. Management indicated it expects its optical business to slow

despite continuing robust metro growth. Management indicated they

expected metro revenues to grow at a strong 40%-50% pace with no

meaningful slowdown in the cards. However, the bulk of the revenues is in

the long haul segment and here they expect revenues to slow to the 20%

level from prior expectations of 35%-40%.
* Central Office Switching Also Bearing The Brunt. Management didn't offer

any quantification of the weakness in CO switching, but it was singled out

as an area slowing sharply. We think its eroded from the up 5%-10%

vicinity last quarter to the down 10%-15% vicinity this quarter. ATM

sales appear to be holding up well but have also slowed some what.
Management Guidance For Full Year Estimates Looks Too High Still--
Restructuring Benefits Seen As Offsetting Revenue Shortfall. Nortel is
cutting 10,000 positions from its payrolls. They believe they will have cut
roughly 6,000 by the end of this quarter and 4,000 more in the first part of
CY 2Q. At roughly $100,000 per position, this represents a $1 billion cost
savings. We estimate this as worth roughly $0.20 per share after tax on a
full year basis with roughly 3/4s of the benefits falling in 2001 and the
remainder in 2002. Management believes this will offset all but the current
quarter's down turn.
We think this is too aggressive. We are forecasting an $0.08 reduction in
our 2Q estimate from $0.23 per share to $0.15 per share. We expect revenues
to increase roughly 7.5% year-over-year. But with the lowered revenues we
think the operating margins will also remain under pressure even with the
cost cutting. Its very difficult to fully offset a significant revenue
slowdown with head count reductions in such a short period. In 2H management
believes its cost cutting will be leveraged by rebounding growth yielding
higher than previously forecasted 4Q results. We think this is aggressive.
* Management expects gross margins to hold relatively steady compared to

prior estimates in the 2Q-4Q periods. We have lowered GMs slightly to

reflect the lower volumes and the parts squeeze.
* Management is forecasting Selling And Marketing expenses at 17.5%-18.0%.

We are more conservative with our model carrying 19.3%.
* Management is targeting R&D spending at 12.0%-12.5%. We are more

conservative with R&D at 13.8% of sales.
Management Believes Service Providers Will Delay Orders And Push Their
Networks To Utilize Existing Capacity Even At The Risk Of Running Out. Due
to the tight financing conditions, management thinks service providers may
push much harder on the existing capacity in their networks rather than
deploy new equipment or fiber. This assumption under pins the bulk of
management's guidance change. They see significant push outs. However, they
see no slacking of end market demand for services and they strongly believe
this will force the service providers back to the ordering table by the
second half as the volume grows rapidly and stresses the existing capacity.
Based on the lowered earnings estimates and impaired visibility we are
trimming our price target to $50 from $60. Our new target reflects 75 times
2001 estimates and 45 times 2002 estimates. We think these shares can trade
at 2-2.5 times our estimate of their sustainable growth of 25%-35% implying a
value of 60-75 times forward earnings at the peak of an economic expansion.
COMPANY DESCRIPTION
Nortel Networks is a leading global supplier of data and telephony network
solutions and services. Its business consists of the design, development,
manufacture, marketing, sale, financing, installation, servicing, and support
of data and telephony networks for carrier and enterprise customers. Nortel
has a particularly strong position in optical networking. Customers include
public and private institutions; local, long-distance, personal
communications services, and cellular mobile communications companies; cable
television companies; Internet service providers; and utilities.



To: pat mudge who wrote (220)2/16/2001 10:17:56 PM
From: sirdar  Respond to of 3294
 
pat...

d'acorde

please correct my french s.v.p....

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To: pat mudge who wrote (220)2/16/2001 10:43:06 PM
From: Ibexx  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3294
 
pat,

Re. Nortel

John Andrew Roth has a serious credibility or judgement problem, or both:

"They had signs about this two to three weeks ago. Is it a cynical exercise that they wanted to hold off on this news?" - Lawrence Surtees, analyst with research firm IDC Canada."
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Now entered the lawyers....
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