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Politics : Right Wing Extremist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: MSB who wrote (6216)	3/12/2001 11:52:50 PM
From: Mr. Whist	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 59480

MSB: Thanks for your insight. Nice post. My wife and daughter also are teachers. What you have to understand is that a lot of the self-styled elitists on this particular board just like to bash ... and since they don't have Clinton or Gore to kick around anymore ... well, teachers make a convenient target.

To: MSB who wrote (6216)	3/13/2001 12:27:20 AM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 59480

I was a teacher. Voted against the union. My wife is a teacher. Used to have the option to be a union member or not (if not, pay representation dues). So many teachers took the NOT option that the state association demanded that all the school districts in the state take away the option not to belong to the union. Now if you want to teach, you have to belong to the union. So much for freedom. So much for trusting the teachers to make intelligent decisions.

To: MSB who wrote (6216)	3/13/2001 12:58:26 AM
From: Magnatizer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 59480

MSB I won't speak for others but my stand on the education problems has little to do with the teachers themselves. They lack adequate funding, programs which are proven effective are scraped by school boards and dead beat parents treat public school as if it is a babysitting service. If it were up to me sports stars would make 50k a year and the best teachers would bring in 20 million. Now THAT would be some kind of country! ht Mag

To: MSB who wrote (6216)	3/13/2001 1:15:28 AM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 59480

Maybe those unions have something to do with that low pay. They do oppose merit pay.

To: MSB who wrote (6216)	3/13/2001 11:42:22 AM
From: Gordon A. Langston	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 59480

This is really an odd problem. You could easily compare it to police unions, whose employees never get rich either. Relatively speaking attorneys who work for the government do not get rich. The State monopolizes the system of education (schools) and the union is merely a matching monolith so you should not expect the benefits of free enterprise to be at work here. The wife (a teacher) makes 60K, which if extended to a full year would be 78K. The money has bugged her but not as much as the conditions she works under. I wouldn't abolish teacher unions until we took the monopoly of education from the STATE. Then unions might live or die on their merits.