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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Chris land who wrote (14404)	5/25/2001 6:22:32 PM
From: Kid Rock	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

if a Jewish baby and a baptized Christian baby were both drowning, and you could only save 1, would you save the baby that is going to heaven or the baby you could still potentially convert and baptize, even though it would be from a race of theives and murderers? you certainly are a POS.

To: Chris land who wrote (14404)	5/25/2001 6:24:30 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

You do not thank people for reparations. They are not a gift, and, in any case, could never be sufficient to redress the enormity of the Holocaust. There was a fairly long period of time when Palestinian Arabs and Jews lived peacefully, and when there was even discussion of a "binational" (what we might call bi- ethnic) state to come after the British Mandatory authorities. However, the increasing desperation of some Jewish factions, in trying to rescue Jews from the Nazis, and the fact that key Arab figures, like the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, expressed pro- Nazi sentiments, took that option off the table. It is pretty certain that during the War of Independence the Arab powers, confident of victory, advised the Palestinians to flee (temporarily). It is also fairly certain that a faction of the Irgun (a Jewish para- military group) committed some atrocities. In any event, after that, relations between the refugees and the Jewish Israelis were poisoned, although those Palestinian Arabs who maintained residence were afforded full citizenship. In any event, Israel had the misfortune of being founded during an era of Pan- Arab nationalism, and the Palestinians became the one thing that the various Arab powers could be sure to rally around. Instead of assimilating them into the surrounding Arab societies, they intentionally maintained the refugee camps, to ensure that the issue remained heated. The PLO was founded in 1965, not even 20 years after the War of Independence, and from the start pursued a policy of terrorism, which hardened the feelings of the Israeli public on the question. The Israelis developed the country, and many of their families have now been in the country for several generations. They are not leaving, because they are not an occupying force. The status of the Palestinian territories remains in the hands of the Palestinians, to the extent that, as long as they are perceived as a major security risk, the occupation will not end, and when they are cooperative, it will........

To: Chris land who wrote (14404)	5/25/2001 6:52:42 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Chris, do you think the Israeli and the Palestinian have equal bargaining power? One Israeli bites the dust and 10 Palestinian die. Who can blame them? It can't go on forever, Palestinians are displaced, displace them one more time and give them a homeland and end the carnage and just possibly eliminate a nuclear confrontation. Do you really want to read about mad Arab bombers every day until the end of time? The Palestinians are tools for the entire Arab world to tweak Israel with. As a Christian you are closer to the Israeli Semite than the Arab Semite.