To: epicure who wrote (27 ) 5/30/2001 2:09:16 PM From: Solon Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 526 Agreed. People must be educated to personal responsibility. Many people today, walk and try to eat just a bit more sensibly. This is far better than triple bypass surgery... As to the dodgw ball--of course I am completely biased! In practice, X, dodge ball is a laughing, friendly, exuberent game where there is truly a sense of the group. Everyone trying to get behind their neighbours as they move to different places in the circle; laughing, running, good l8uck, bad luck--trying to be the invisible one in the ring. I don't remember aggression, in either the hostile or the attacking sense, as being a part of my experience with the game. It is a high energy game, for sure. I know what you are saying, and I am aware that tv and movies and modern life have undoubtedly made many children assume attitudes that are unhealthy. I remember we were always extremely competitive. WE wanted to win at wrestling, sword fighting with sticks, etc., but we never wanted to hurt each other (and I know that sounds VERY contradictory, but there was simply no malice). Actually, one kid did. When we used to sword fight with sticks, he did not seem to be aware or to care about limitations of attack. If you were unable to beat him, he could hurt you badly. And of course, just like in adult life, the fight was unfair. We were constrained by an inner sense from hurting him, but he had no such inhibition. Yes, I see your point; but being slightly hurt in play is a part of learning compassion for others, too. Small injuries are an inevitable byproduct of play (not refering to the ones you cited). Children always do some play outside of supervision whether at home or at school, and they always manage to test the limitations of reality. How high can you jump from the tree before it really hurts or scares you too much--things like that. If I have never experienced pain, how am I to anticipate it in you? I just don't think dodge ball should be the game that goes. It allows high spirited play (which children really need), and it allows a sense of belonging and group interaction. It can be used as a group educational experience in many ways. But mostly, it is just sheer, sqealing fun!