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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (1726)	6/8/2001 5:18:01 PM
From: Zeev Hed	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

Add to that the laws of citizenship in Kuwait. if it was applied to Palestinian, 80% of them could not even claim they are Palestinians. The Kuwaiti laws requires that the paternal line to 1913 was always born in Kuwait. Most Palestinians came from neighboring Arab countries (and as far away as Russia, like the village of Abu Gosh near Jerusalem) since it was the only place in the crescent where they could find work, due to the development of the country late in the 19th century and early in the 20th century. That is a fact. Zeev

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (1726)	6/9/2001 4:02:01 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

Re: So tell me, what's been Israel's added value so far?? As a major political hedge against Arab monarchical, or dictatorial power. Now, that's interesting.... Do you mean that Israelis are mere pawns pushed against the Arabs on the grand chessboard of Middle East geopolitics? If so, please clue your fellow average Joe in for the guy's sorta mixed-up about it: average joe to Gustave Jaeger in post #1675: The simple fact is Palestinians are born pawns for the entire world to attack Israel with. Like you Hawk, I knew it's the other way around....

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (1726)	6/9/2001 4:22:57 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

As for you little quiz, let me throw it back to you: Trivia question Hawk... Can you name one European nation where foreigners have the same rights and equality as the native population?? And here's another one. Name one European nation that can remotely be called a color-blind democracy... And then ask yourself, what has been the value to global stability, freedom, and peace, of dividing up the European Reich/hegemon into a scatter of competing nation-states?? Gus. Here's some background material to help you answer the quiz: Britain: Heavy-handed policing provokes riots in Leeds By Mike Ingram 8 June 2001 The city of Leeds in West Yorkshire became the latest flash point for social tensions in Britain this week, as youth took to the streets in protest at heavy-handed policing in the area. On the night of Tuesday June 5, between one and three hundred people fought pitched battles with police, and a number of vehicles were set on fire. According to Radio Leeds, hundreds of black, white and Asian youths again gathered in the largely working class Harehills area, Wednesday night. There was a high police presence and the street was closed for a period of time, but there were no further incidents. By 11pm the road was re-opened and the youth drifted off. Nothing like it has been seen in the city since the riots in the neighbouring Chapletown district in 1981, when inner-city areas across the country exploded in protest at the indiscriminate use of “Stop and Search” laws by police. Contradictory reports have appeared in the press since the events in Leeds on Tuesday evening, but all agree that the spark for the incident was the arrest of Hossein Miah on the afternoon of Sunday June 3 for an alleged motoring offence. According to police reports, at about 2.30pm, Miah, a 31-year-old Bangladeshi living in the Harehills area, was seen driving “erratically” along Harehills Avenue, near the junction with Spencer Place. His car was pulled over by a lone traffic cop, who checked the vehicle and allegedly found that the tax disc did not correspond with the registration number on the car. Miah was immediately arrested, with the police officer ignoring his protests against leaving his wife, who speaks no English, and their five-month old baby in the car in what is known to be a red-light area. The officer handcuffed Miah and squirted CS spray in his face. A crowd of at least 40 people had by now gathered to observe the arrest. One witness said: “There was quite a lot of shouting and screaming. I thought it was going to kick off there and then. He [Mr Miah] had blood coming out of his mouth or from his lip.” [...] wsws.org