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To: Bill Jackson who wrote (152730)	6/13/2001 12:17:19 AM
From: nealm	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

The data I looked at wasn't upper atmosphere. We're still talking about the troposphere, just not on the surface. It's well understood that the world's oceans are a moderating influence on the weather. I'd give more credance to sub-surface water temps, as well as above surface troposphere measurements, than surface temps of the last 5-100 years in and near urban areas. I believe that at some point after the creation/evolution of the world, the overall the earth became adiabatic. That is while there are long term cycles there is a equilibrium in temperature. Extra ordinary claims require extra ordinary evidence.

To: Bill Jackson who wrote (152730)	6/13/2001 12:18:29 AM
From: rich4eagle	Respond to of 769670

Cool post

To: Bill Jackson who wrote (152730)	6/13/2001 12:25:18 AM
From: Thomas A Watson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Dear bill, consider. Water vapor: a major Greenhouse gas Most people talk about carbon dioxide, but water vapor is as important if not dominant. However the action of water is very complicated. It is an example of a positive feedback loop, that is something that grows. The higher the temp, the more water vapor is produced through evaporation, increasing the greenhouse effect...except that clouds increase the albedo and therefore turn down the greenhouse effect. Now can everyone understand that when there is a cloud between you and the sun it does seem no so hot. Like the difference between standing in the sun and then waking into the shade. I guess vacant liberal minds cannot perceive the difference between being in direct sunlight and being in the shade. The problem is that know one has an equation that predicts was is and thus know one knows what will be. tom watson tosiwmee