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To: Mr. Whist who wrote (162065)	7/18/2001 11:04:03 AM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 769670

If that's so, then why did the other guy get more votes on Nov. 8? Institutionalized demolib Vote fraud. Biased media coverage. JLA

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (162065)	7/18/2001 11:30:20 AM
From: DOUG H	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Re: "Left wing ideology is a failed enterprise that can't stand on its own." If that's so, then why did the other guy get more votes on Nov. 8? In fact Flapster, the results of Nov. 8th confirm in a way the failure, or at least the danger of left wing ideology. Al Gore's central theme of his campaign was "I'll fight for you". The flip side of this of course is "I'm coming to GET you". (As a small businessman I was horrified by Gore's campaign.) This theme has great appeal to "the masses" and hence your Nov. 8th result. Fortuantely, the Constitution contemplated the adverse effect of such mob rule and implemented the Electorial College system to prevent the "have not" masses from pilfering the "haves". The reason is simple, making everyone even, makes everyone mediocre. ................................................. Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it: The Fall Of A Republic When the thirteen colonies were still a part of England, Professor Alexander Tyler wrote about the fall of the Athenian republic over two thousand years previous to that time: A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, (Al Gore) with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage. Alexander Tyler Message 14863217

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (162065)	7/18/2001 11:35:58 AM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

Actually, Christ's "turn the other cheek" statement was a radical, political statement ... and very subtle. By turning the cheek, the victim was actually forcing the abuser to strike with the other side of his hand, which was demeaning in Jewish culture in the Middle East at that time. In other words, embarrass him who embarrasses you. You are so wrong, you have no idea what you are saying. There. IS that better than calling you a liar? But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. so..... I suppose going two miles was political....giving your cloak was political? love them that hate you.....political? see how bad your comment was? (I doubt that you do)

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (162065)	7/18/2001 12:34:35 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

dear flappy, >>>>>I never see such Armegeddon-like behavior from those who post left of center. LOL LOL you have not read 7442166, spirit of doom or is it you consider that far to the right of you positions. I also don't know of any ever creating an Impeach pig vomit mr. bill board. Extreme Right Wing is a term making fun of the comments of the lady with the secret service personal servants. Once again I see you thinking as not. you all have a nice day now hear. tom watson tosiwmee

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (162065)	7/18/2001 9:04:56 PM
From: ManyMoose	Respond to of 769670

Holy crusade? I don't think so. The off switch is always close at hand. I was simply suggesting a way that the "verbal sparring" could become more civilized.

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (162065)	7/18/2001 11:39:29 PM
From: cAPSLOCK	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Actually, Christ's "turn the other cheek" statement was a radical, political statement ... and very subtle. By turning the cheek, the victim was actually forcing the abuser to strike with the other side of his hand, which was demeaning in Jewish culture in the Middle East at that time. In other words, embarrass him who embarrasses you. Wow. This concept undermines the entire Christian message. If you are a Christian then this is something you MUST understand. Not only is the message in the passage clear, and supported by other examples of laying down ones life. The passage begins with the clear instruction "But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person." Not "Let me tell you a subtle way to embarrass an evil person". The rusult of Christ's philosophy can be seen in the result of his own action in submissive death. It has even worked for those who were not Christian. Ghandi for example. regards, cAPS