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To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (113726)	7/20/2001 12:23:35 PM
From: Shack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Crazy man! Bull stew being served next week methinks. The way the waves are setting up and assuming we close strong (which I think we will), it looks like Monday will be a high. I will be going heavy into Dow poots.

To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (113726)	7/20/2001 12:52:07 PM
From: Lucretius	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 436258

agreed.... your cycle inverted imo... this is a major high... now, we go DOWN

To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (113726)	7/21/2001 1:47:45 PM
From: James F. Hopkins	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Heinz; I'm not to sure how good those polls are since I started using the daily asset value / the nav of the rydex funds I get just how real money bets are being placed, tahts a lot different from a poll which includes many opinions of those who are to meek to bet what they believe. ---------------------- Asset value/ nav has the Bulls / Bears in the Rydex camp just about April 6th levels. The Bulls Peaked and the Low for the bears was July 2nd..that's by the average amount of shares out in Bull/Bear funds , Rydex Money Market funds are now at April 4th levels.. Far from sentiment being bullish.. There may be a lot of people saying they are bullish but they haven't put their money where their mouth is. Jim PS , This market is not going to "test" the April Low Bets say the marjortiy seem to "think" it will and it won't ever comply with what the majority "think" So we either rally before taht, or we plunge right through it and set a new Low..a "test" is out of the picture. ( in the near future )

To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (113726)	7/28/2001 1:45:08 PM
From: James F. Hopkins	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 436258

Hi Heinze; I just ran into this; Poll: Investor Optimism at Five-Year Low NEW YORK (Reuters) - Investor optimism sank to its lowest level in almost five years in July as the nation's sluggish economy and shrinking corporate profits rattled the stock market, according to a poll by brokerage UBS PaineWebber Inc. and the Gallup Organization research firm. --------------- dailynews.yahoo.com ---------------- I'm tending to think we can find what ever we are looking for in the polls & a lot of them are done with an ulterior agenda. Also they can make their data fit the curves they want, I know I can if I want to. I'm just going to have to stick with where & how "money" is bet & even that can be misleading at times. More recently the rydex family has been showing very mixed signals..there is a lot of indecision in their funds. & I'm also in that camp. I'm now flat and waiting for either a good rally to short or a good dip to buy. Jim