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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: one_less who wrote (19735)	7/30/2001 8:05:13 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

I thought plan A is waiting until marriage? That may be your plan A. My plan A is focused on teenagers, who IMO aren't ready for sex. I don't expect to find 30 year old virgins. In fact, that doesn't seem very healthy to me. Your argument for plan A is decency. That was the thinking when I was coming of age, that sex is indecent. Caused all kinds of problems. And it may work on a fraction of kids but not likely the majority. I would argue, instead, that sex for teens is stupid, long term. I think that would draw a bigger crowd. I could also make an argument against casual sex at any age. OTOH, I wouldn't even try to make an argument against sex between adults exploring a potential lifetime relationship. In fact, I would encourage it. I think that if you go for abstinence until marriage on the basis of decency you'll end up with a few decent kids getting married and a disaster for the rest. Karen

To: one_less who wrote (19735)	7/30/2001 8:48:40 PM
From: Dayuhan	Respond to of 82486

In what way is abstinence until marriage a "higher" goal than teaching people to manage normal premarital sexuality with pragmatism and intelligence? I would hate to see one of my children marry someone they's never had sex with. I would hate to see one of them marry someone they hadn't lived with for at least a year. I would hate to see one of them get married before having several serious relationships. That may not fit your view of "decency", but that is not something that bothers me.

To: one_less who wrote (19735)	7/30/2001 10:36:16 PM
From: E	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 82486

I've never met a person who had had virtually no sexual experience before marriage who didn't sow their wild oats after marriage. The oats will be sown, if there is a field available. They will not tell you, who approve their virtue, and they might not know this will the case when they've only been briefly married, but if the oats are the wild ones and throbbing to be sown and there is a warm field....