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To: Lane3 who wrote (21580)	8/12/2001 5:59:42 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

The real question is, was the last half of the 20th century in the US a bellweather or a blip?

To: Lane3 who wrote (21580)	8/12/2001 6:37:12 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Lots of people have seen the "right" way as being polygamy. Is that the right way? or is monogamy the "right" way? Or maybe the right way, is whatever way you've been going, and doesn't really have anything to do with "right".

To: Lane3 who wrote (21580)	8/15/2001 3:53:28 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 82486

Karen, on the subject of W and stem cell research, did you catch this article today? nytimes.com For some reason, perhaps the relatively recent origin of the human species, many human embryos are imperfect and fail to develop or implant properly in the wall of the uterus. Fertility clinics typically generate eight or nine embryos per pregnancy, of which only the healthiest looking are implanted. The rest are stored, and ultimately, most are destroyed. The number of embryos disposed of by clinics is not known because there is no national authority that gathers the statistics. In Britain, however, the Human Fertilization and Embryology Authority has reported that some 50,000 babies have been born through in vitro fertilization since 1991, and 294,584 surplus human embryos have been destroyed. According to the American Society for Reproductive Medicine, about 100,000 children have been born in the United States by in vitro fertilization, or twice the number in Britain, implying that some 600,000 embryos would have been destroyed if American clinics followed the same five- year storage limit used in Britain. Only a small fraction of the discarded embryos would provide as many stem cells as researchers could use. But opponents of stem cell research, who condemn scientists for destroying embryos, seem less eager to criticize the clinics and the infertile couples who seek their help. . . . The anti-abortion movement "has tried to draw a clear and bright line at fertilization," said Dr. Thomas Murray, director of the Hastings Institute in Garrison, N.Y. "Until now, they have been able to avoid having the question called. Embryonic stem cell research has called the question for them. And what we are seeing is that some politicians who have strongly supported the pro-life position now acknowledge they do not accept fertilization as the clear and bright line."