To: sea_biscuit who wrote (24067 ) 8/28/2001 2:08:59 PM From: Jock Hutchinson Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 25814 Dipy: The only valid comparison for a cyclical stock like LSI is high to high and low to low, and on that basis, LSI has done a great job of returning on one's investment. If one uses a rolling five year return over the past ten years, the return on LSI has been terrific. Your problem (aside from welching on your bets) is that you want to write the rules on the time period required for holding a stock, and then claim that your method of investing is superior. But there are many other ways in which to invest in the market, and clearly one way is to realize that semi stocks are cyclical over a time period to two to five years, and attempt to make money off of this cyclicality by buying at the lows and selling at the highs. And whether you like it or not, that is that way in which Mr. Soros has made his money--not long-term buy and hold investing like Mr. Buffett. And this is what I do as an investor. I take large positions in semi stocks, and hold them for a period of time during an upcycle and sell them before they have begun to depreciate significantly--or at least I try. To dome extent there is luck involved. (For example, last December, I rolled my losing LSI position at 17 into NSM at the same price, so that I could take a loss, yet retain the essence of my holding. By luck alone, the NSM position is now 13 points higher, and my core semi holding is even over approximately the last year.) But there is also a great deal of skill involved since this sort of trading patterns recognizes that there are two sides to every coin, and that the pessimists like you will have their day in the sun, just as will the optimists like Addi. Regards JH PS> By the way, I would like to remind you that you have spent far more time reminding me about my less than stellar picks of April than I have spent reminding you of the fact that I OBLITERATED you on a bet, and you never paid up.