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To: wanna_bmw who wrote (52602)	8/27/2001 12:34:45 PM
From: Bill Jackson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

gotta_chevy? I do not agree that AMD has been definitively beaten. They have been beaten, yes, but not definiitively. An improved 1.5+ GHZ A4 might yet turn the tables. AMD has been holding back on a release.....could it be to get it better? An improved stepping that is both faster as well as better at it's job could well redress the equation. Remember that a 1.8 Ghz P-4 was behind the 1.4 Ghz A-4 in about the same way that the 2 Ghz P-4 is ahead of the 1.4 Ghz A-4. Now a 100 Mhz increase will not make it beat the P-4, but it could bring it to equivalence, and a better A4 at 1,5 Ghz could beat the P-4 2 Ghz.!! Since there are pet Intel benchmarks that show the 1.2 Ghz P-4 better than the 1.4 Ghz, I wwill choose to use the Anandtech or other neutral benchmarker, and even he does use some benchmarks that favor Intel while not using those that favor AMD, so he does cripple the AMD by a little bit. Bill

To: wanna_bmw who wrote (52602)	8/27/2001 12:59:07 PM
From: jjayxxxx	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

re: <Even previously pro-AMD web pages have admitted the fact that the 2.0GHz Pentium 4 has managed to definitively beat the Athlon.> Yes. However, most reviews have included some sort of qualificaiton. Either a price-performance qualification or a qualification to the effect of "Intel wins for now, but something is just around the corner". Besides, you have to admit, this is a tit-for-tat sort of thing. A game of oneupsmanship. Granted, Intel wins this round, but that is merely because they were the first to arrive. AMD won't arrive at 2 GHz for a while, but their next release should at least put the reviewers back into a confused status as to any clear winners, at best, a clear victory for AMD. The big question is, how long can AMD remain competitive in this game before hammer arrives? Is the 2 GHz P4 Intel's first step "away" from AMD in a series of strides to come? An even bigger question is, does any of it matter if the economy doesn't turn around anytime soon? JJ