To: Mark Adams who wrote (9412 ) 9/16/2001 1:48:51 AM From: elmatador Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 74559 OK, I have been trying to play the dissonant voice in BBR Thread. I hope I won't get misinterpreted. The problem is the political leadership of those countries. Not the individuals. They are not different than me and you. I live and worked in four continents. Have witnesses all that. The problem is that countries that were viable during the Cold War no longer are. Indonesia, could be supported because of strategic reasons (access to the Sumatra Straight). South Africa, idem, because of the control of the tip of Africa. Israel because of the Middle East and the result of the WWII. A couple countries in the horn of Africa 'controlled' the access to the Red Sea. All based in bureaucrats looking at maps in the Pentagon. All the countries -and its governing elites- that were established in a Cold War context, no longer fulfil their purposes. As a result they fell one by one. This is very good since odious system like Apartheid is gone. Autocrats like Suharto are also going to the dust bin of history. Look to Cuba and Castro, aren't both a joke? Only Israel and the US presence in the Gulf States continues. (No one seriously believe we can keep a sort of James Bond state forever.) This is something that people have to understand before looking to the specifics. What worries me is the abysmal lack of knowledge of how the whole world works, geopolitically speaking. When I see the religious tone of America's leadership in the aftermath of the tragedy, it makes me worry a lot about democracy. Everything is put in a quasi-biblical context. This is no good. This is a time to pool all brain power together to act. If the Muslin guys had a political leadership interested in develop those countries, the young guys would be busy buying houses, making babies, buying stereos and wide screen TV. Or discuss the market here, like us.