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To: AmericanVoter who wrote (98)10/6/2001 4:28:26 AM
From: uu  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 2926
 
Dear Amein:

> Addi, I asked you sometime ago to modify the first post adding some of the positive links about Islam...

I am not able to do so simply because SI does not let me modify a post that has already been posted. It is like me asking you if you can make changes to your already posted comments, can you do so? If you can please do let me know how, and I will do the same. I will also ask SI if they can make an exception with that very first post to see if I can modify it to also reflect those other links as well. so please do not take that in any other way. I truly and genuinely am trying to have an open mind and not biased.

Now I guess I have to be honest with you that unknowingly I maybe biased against Islam simply because of what I have seen of those who call themselves Muslims when I was in Iran and especially during the so called Khomeini's revolution, and of course what I have seen of them in practical real life at a global level since I left Iran.

But now perhaps I have to make a distinction between Islam and those who call themselves Muslims. And from what I hear by so many educated people like yourself is the fact that the true Islam is far far from what the Muslims in countries such as Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Lybia, Sumalia, etc. etc. etc. are practicing.

What you are saying is that Islam does not promote or discuss the notion of violence even though we see Muslims under the name Islam and God are doing things that even Nazis did not dare to do so for which it was so sub-human even they could not have their conscious let them do so. And I can write a book on the types of violence Muslims have been practicing in literally every Islamic country (e.g. Iran, Iraq, Sumalia, Algeria, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, etc. etc.).

What you are saying is that Islam does not oppress women in any form or shape despite what we see happening in literally all Islamic countries in the world today. And again I can write a book on this very subject.

And what you are saying about Islam being the religion of peace is true despite all the hatred that Muslims all over the world have toward non-Muslims. And again I can write a book on this very subject and the types of hatred that is taking place in literally all Islamic countries in the world.

And For all I know you maybe correct - and it is true that the religion itself is pure, it is those who are following it are impure.

But one thing I do know (or at least I like to feel that I do), and that is you are an educated well respected man who seems to accept reasons and logic, and even if you can not explain some of the evil things that Muslims are doing under the name of their religion, at least you do not argue in hollow to favor them. I am not sure if you have ever come to have a discussion with someone who calls himself a member of Hezb-O-Allah. If you do, you will come to know what evil is and what evil can do. And if you see me a bit biased against Islam - which I really honestly am not - it is because of those who are giving the ideology a bad name. And in my view it should be the duty of every true genuine Muslim to declare Jihad against those Muslims who are giving the religion a bad name.

You state:
> see Addi, initially, I truly thought that you wanted to learn more about Islam... realizing that you are more interested in defamatory posts under the pretext of wanting to learn, I suggested that you do some reading on your own... and I found out later that you can read, but only what you like and what serves your purpose...

Believe me I am thristy to know about the ture Islam. I am - and have been - pre-exposed to an ideology that is followed by the people who are anything but civilized open minded individuals (the likes of Khomeini groupies, the Talibans, etc.). I am asking you - begging you in fact - to respond to my post which I have asked you at least 5 times thus far:

Message 16433303

And if you disagree with what I stated in the following post and if so why (based on logical reasonable "facts":
Message 16441483

Or at least point me in the right direction where I can find the answers to every single questions/issues I have raised in that post. Believe me you despite having a pure Middle Eastern Persian background, you can not find anyone with a mind more open than mine.

In any event, it is an honor and a great pleasure to cyber chat with you - even though we do seem to have our disagreements. You are a good gentleman.

Warmest Regards,



To: AmericanVoter who wrote (98)10/7/2001 12:24:29 AM
From: uu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 2926
 
Interesting article:
isisforum.com

And even a more interesting article:
isisforum.com

By the way Amein, at your request I have sent a message to SI's webmaster asking if they would please let me change the introduction post to this thread to reflect some of the more positive links on Islam also.