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To: BirdDog who wrote (3965)	10/10/2001 1:03:38 AM
From: Lola	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I wasn't arguing on behalf of Muslims ... chill dude! It's a well known fact that the U.S. does project this image of being selfish even to the British ... we see this much more clearly in business situations. Sorry I gotta tell it like it is. But I still prefer the U.S. over the system of any other country. I'm just pointing out the flaws I see ... you don't have to agree. You don't really believe that America is perfect do you? Perfection is something to strive for but nobody ever achieves it. There's alot of things I don't like about the British either ... that doesn't mean I hate them or anything. Lola:)

To: BirdDog who wrote (3965)	10/10/2001 1:10:39 AM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 281500

Terrorism: Background and Threat Assessments fas.org

To: BirdDog who wrote (3965)	10/27/2001 2:14:10 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

BirdDog, Re: . All those pius Islamic fundamentalists wouldn't hurt a flea...all they ever do is flourish in wonderfull inventions to help mankind...until we stop them...bad us...we're so bad... I gotta admit. You might be on to something: nytimes.com <Snip> U.S. Planes Bomb a Red Cross Site for Second Time By ELIZABETH BECKER and ERIC SCHMITT For the second time in 10 days, the Pentagon admitted bombing a Red Cross complex storing humanitarian supplies in Kabul. WASHINGTON, Oct. 26 — American warplanes bombed and largely destroyed the same Red Cross complex in Kabul that they struck 10 days ago, an error the Pentagon admitted tonight, saying it occurred because military planners had picked the wrong target. <End Snip> Say, isn't this the same military that was showing us the extreme accuracy of precision bombing in the Gulf War? (Of course that was later proven to be a lie, but what the heck.) Could it be that we're trying to starve these damn Afghans? Wuddya think? Is this a kuhl way to fight a war, or what? First we say we won't allow any world court to indict any American soldiers, then we start on a course of genocide. Neat, huh? Re: Oh yes.... The US really missed out on the tremendous oil reserves in Vietnam and North Korea. But not for lack of trying, sir. I have a friend who was a legal secretary in San Francisco and she typed up the contract between Standard Oil of California and the French Consulate, representing the interests of the French Government concerning concessions for tracts off Haiphong harbor. This occurred in 1964. If you are conversant with the geo-political situation at the time, you are aware that this was North Vietnamese sovereign territory and that the French had been chased out of their colonial position after the Battle of Dienbiennphu in 1954 dienbienphu.org Was there any legitimacy whatsoever to Chevron's claims? Hardly. What does it matter, eh, it became a moot point by the 1970's. And in the end, test wells in the region have recently proved that one of the linchpin reasons for our invasion of Viet Nam was for a futile effort at securing an illusory resource. Such is the game of American hegemon that we love to play. Salaams, Ray