SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Strategies & Market Trends : Strictly: Drilling II -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Roebear who wrote (2795)10/14/2001 10:24:42 AM
From: majaman1978  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 36161
 
Fears, Again, of Oil Supplies at Risk
nytimes.com



To: Roebear who wrote (2795)10/14/2001 10:34:39 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum  Respond to of 36161
 
Hey Roebear,

toward alternate enegy, whether by fuel cell or oil shale or oil sands, nuclear power or renewable, or even all of the above.
Just like my screw'im philosophy LOL, I just wasn't as elegant.
regards
Kastel



To: Roebear who wrote (2795)10/14/2001 11:38:12 AM
From: Bert  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 36161
 
Roebear, have been legging into HPOW and PLUG, will be finished during the early dip next week...alternative energy stocks are looking attractive...Most should be ready by the end of the month..

Bert



To: Roebear who wrote (2795)10/14/2001 12:04:04 PM
From: el_gaviero  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 36161
 
I came across an essay by the Spanish philosopher Jose Ortega y Gasset. The essay is about N. Africa and about Ibn Khaldun, a 14th century Arabic historian.

In the essay (which Ortega y Gasset wrote in 1927) there appears this line:

“El beduíno solo se entusiasmará con una idea que le invite a devastar ciudades” -- which I translate as: the Bedouin will only get excited about an idea that invites him to devastate cities.

Here are some paragraphs from the essay, thrown into English by me. (I skip over a bit, mainly because I am not good enough to translate Ortega, who skips around a lot, but somehow makes it hang together).

“In the eyes of Ibn Khaldun, the two great realities of history are state and civilization. … Two types of completely different men create the one and the other. The state, according to Ibn Khaldun, is a creation of nomads, of warriors who impose power over large territories and different peoples. Civilization, on the other hand, is a work of sedentary people, living in cities. But here is the secret of every historical movement. Those of the city -- home of knowledge, work, wealth, pleasure -- lack nerve to dominate. Nomads, by way of contrast, toughened by hard and impoverished lives, possess in high degree discipline and courage. Necessity, joined with capacity, leads them to fall upon sedentary peoples, and take over their city, creating states, which are invariably transient, because cities harbor the fatal virus of luxury and pleasure. The triumphant nomad is weakened, becomes civilized, urbanized, commercial, and is left at the mercy of new invaders, other nomads, yet still free of luxury and lust. Thanks to this process, perpetually repeated, history is a cycle, with periods of civilization followed by periods of new invasions.

“Take the city of Melilla [a city in N. Africa occupied by the Spanish since the 15th century]: it has remained for almost 500 years without peaceful contact with its surrounding countryside. Ibn Khaldun gives an explanation for this fact, … which from the European perspective is abnormal, but in North Africa constitutes the rule. With greater or lesser degree of intensity, in North Africa, immemorially, city and country hate each other, while at the same time desiring each other. No other civilization has lived such a permanent, irreducible and radical dualism.

“For this reason Ibn Khaldun … considers human history a perennial conflict of citizen and bedouin.

“The last great movement in the Arabian peninsula has been the formation twenty years ago of the kingdom of Nedjd, by Aben-Saud.” [ Ortega is talking about the creation of the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.] “The region of Nedjd, a corner of Arabia” [i.e. now Saudi Arabia] “is pure bedouin. Aben-Saud organized it, and with his rude and harsh camel drivers next fell upon Mecca. Had it not been for the interests of European powers, Arabia today would be closer than ever to achieving its political and religious unity under the command of this magnificent bedouin.

“All of this” [i.e. Aben-Saud’s creation of Saudi Arabia] “has happened according to the letter of Ibn Khaldun ‘s historical law: first, Aben-Saud based his effort on family and tribe. With their help he took the little city of Nedjd. Next he made use of a religious idea -- Wehabism.

“Don’t ask what Wehabism is all about. No matter what religious idea might pour over a bedouin’d soul, its essential result is known a priori -- puritanism. …

“ Mohammedism is … a form of puritanism. Out of the depth of Judeo-Christian doctrine it skimmed off only what was exaggerated and aggressive. For that reason, it is the only religion with a creed formulated negatively: ‘there is no God but God…’ The tautology of this expression makes sense if it is understood as a fragment of a dialog, of a dispute: in short, if one notices its polemical content.

“Mohammedism is the only religion whose creed starts with a ‘no.’ Its success at war was not an accident … . The Mohammedan faith is basically polemic, basically war. It believes, above all, that we others do not have the right to believe what we believe. Rather than monotheism, Mohammedism’s psychologically exact name would be “non-polytheism.”

"From time to time in Mohammedism, new forms of arch-puritanism emerge. One of these is Wehabism, which goes so far as to spank children if they laugh, and deny them toys.

“It is in this sense that one has to understand the famous phrase of Renan: ‘The desert is monotheistic…’ The desert -- what it really is -- is aggressive and proud. A bedouin will only get excited about an idea that invites him to devastate cities.

“Four or five years ago, Aben-Saud succeeded in throwing his men against Mecca, having made them believe that [the citizens of Mecca] were committing quite consciously five sins: Jaznun, Yakhunun, Yaschritun, Yatalawtun, Yaschrikun, that is, sensuality, lying, smoking and drinking, sodomy and polytheism.”

These musings by Ortega produce some thoughts in me:
1) Bin Laden and the Taliban represent nothing new. Rather they are a contemporary expression of an old Islamic tendency towards hyper-aggressive, hyper-puritanical ideas, in the name of which masses of poor people are molded into an assault force.

2) My suspicion is that the blow directed against us on Sept.11 had very little to do with us, and a great deal to do with desire on the part of Bin Laden to radicalize and mold the Arab masses for an assault. But on whom? On Saudi Arabia and the other kingdoms and sheikdoms of the Persian Gulf.

3) Bin Laden has wide appeal among the lower strata of the Islamic/Arabic masses. The success of his attack on us should increase his appeal even more. Thanks to him there are now two sources of heat under the seething cauldron of the Middle East -- Palestine AND Afghanistan. Soon there will be more.

4) The direct danger to us of Bin Laden is low. Sure, he (or those who follow) might get in another blow. But direct violence against us is going to be harder to achieve. The real danger is the effect that Bin Ladenism will have upon the Middle East. In my opinion, underneath and behind all of this is oil. Bin Laden smells vacillation on our part, and weakness on the part of the sheiks. He senses that he has a shot at gaining control of the Persian Gulf.

6) The challenge presented to us by Bin Ladenism is just the one that old Ibn Khaldun, the 14th century Arabic historian, understood. Do we have the nerve? Not to fight directly and honorably, which we can do. Rather, the place where we will have to have nerve is in the realm of international politics. Do we understand ourselves well enough, do we believe in our own values strongly enough, do we have enough confidence, to engage in a complex, nasty political fight. If I look into my own heart, I discover all sorts of doubt. My lack of confidence takes this form: I fear our capacity for toughness has been weakened by feminism, by applied utopianism (otherwise known as liberalism), and by our open borders, which has let people from everywhere into our country, so that now we cannot make firm decisions about foreign matters without antagonizing some powerful group.

7) As I say, oil is the driving force. We are entering the End Game of the Age of Oil.



To: Roebear who wrote (2795)10/14/2001 3:40:31 PM
From: Art Bechhoefer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 36161
 
Roebear, thanks for the link to "The Clash of Civilisations," which is interesting but hardly forms any sort of guideline for practical action. As a long time student of Arabic civilization (Univ. of Mich.) and as one who worked in Muslim countries for seven years, I find the article so full of gross generalizations that one can't really evaluate them other than to note that the conclusions are impractical and unjustified.

One could just as easily characterize the Protestant and Catholic civilizations in Western Europe during the period of the crusades as bent on destroying a much more highly developed Muslim civilization. Doing so, however, gets one no closer to a practical solution of the present crisis.

What occurs to me, based on my studies as well as my work in various foreign assistance programs in Tunisia, Turkey, and Indonesia, is that modernized nations (be they Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Confucian, etc.) will resort to violence almost as a gut reaction to not being able to play on a level field (i.e., not having the same technological development). Just like a bully using his muscles instead of his head.

A more constructive response is to show the bully that his approach won't work over time. That is to say, one need not resort to bullying tactics to beat the bully. In fact that may be counterproductive. There are many examples in history of how to deal with bullies. Armed might is only one alternative, usually the most expensive, and often no more effective than the use of skilled diplomacy. One good example is how the emperors of Byzantium managed to survive against much stronger enemies on all sides for such a long time. They became very skilled in diplomacy. Just a few ideas that in my view are more practical than those offered by a guy whose background appears to be mainly academic.

Art



To: Roebear who wrote (2795)10/14/2001 7:26:35 PM
From: Douglas V. Fant  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 36161
 
Roebear, Fully agreed- Move as a rapidly away from foreign oil as possible. We can offer significant tax incentives in the current energy legislation pending. By the way the fundamental Muslims in Nigeria attacked the Christians yesterday in Kano, and burnt down dozens of churches slaughtered school girls, etc, all in the "name of God".

Pretty sick display of fascism, racism, and elitism. Anyone else beginning to see the worldwide pattern with fundamental Islam- talk of "peace" and "tolerance" while waging mass murder against its opponents, whether it's the Timorese, southern Nigerians, Africans in the Sudan, Americans, Tajiks, Uzbeks, or numerous other target groups? It is a worldwide plague of fascism, medieval brutality and barbarism....


By Jeff Koinange
Lagos Bureau

LAGOS, Nigeria (CNN) -- Authorities in the northern Nigerian city of Kano confirmed at least 18 dead Sunday, after two days of clashes between police and anti-U.S. protesters. Others said hundreds may have died.

By Sunday night, city streets were quiet, but gunfire could be heard in the suburbs. Despite official accounts of the number of dead, witnesses told CNN they had seen hundreds of bodies in the streets and elsewhere.

The protests began peacefully Friday as a reaction against the U.S.-led airstrikes in Afghanistan, but turned violent Saturday.

Some of the fighting was attributed to traditional rivalries between Christians and Muslims. After the violence began, many non-Muslims fled to police stations and military barracks for safety.

Additional government troops entered Kano Sunday to help police keep the peace, after many residents ignored an overnight curfew.

MORE STORIES
Order restored to Nigerian city after violence

Although Saturday's violence was linked to the bombardment of Afghanistan, it followed a familiar pattern of deadly religious clashes that have rocked Nigeria over the past two years, killing thousands.

The introduction of Islamic law in some northern states triggered Muslim-Christian fighting in cities in the region.

Nigeria's population of about 120 million is split almost evenly between Muslims and Christians.