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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (5324)	10/15/2001 6:31:01 PM
From: FaultLine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

They've done their big attack. Unless they have a nuke [which seems unlikely] any other attacks will be of nuisance value and probably embarrassing to the jihadists. They scored the most amazing jackpot possible with the attack on the WTC. exactly correct. -k

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (5324)	10/15/2001 6:37:10 PM
From: RocketMan	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

They scored the most amazing jackpot possible with the attack on the WTC. At the risk of suggesting a more horrendous event for these sub-humans, there is another escalation possible before going nuclear -- smallpox, which they may have already obtained from North Korea or Iraq.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (5324)	10/15/2001 6:54:03 PM
From: Michael Watkins	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I personally think it was an attack on the world and progress [another version of Ted Kaczynski and opposition to the process of globalisation, technology and subsuming of localized cultures into a global culture There's this thread of thought lurking in my brain too. The big dangers to radical Islam are globalization / democracy. Perhaps the radical terrorists believe they can wall off their societies in order to survive, but do they really believe that their own perversion of Islam can survive and flourish merely by forcing the rest of the world out of their own lands? Do they really feel this way? Or is part of their plan for long term survival of their radical fundamentalist ways involve reducing those that might oppose them - the developed, multicultural, religious/secular, economically powerful world - into worlds that look more like theirs? - economically weak(er) - hungry population - civil unrest etc. I reserve the right to feel that they embarked on a crusade which to them is much much bigger than the 9-11 attack. I can think of things they could do that would continue to weaken our societal fabric. They are not pretty, pleasant things to think about.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (5324)	10/15/2001 9:26:53 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 281500

They've done their big attack. Unless they have a nuke [which seems unlikely] any other attacks will be of nuisance value and probably embarrassing to the jihadists. I completely agree.. The WTC was the match that lit the fuse to the Middle Eastern powder keg. It has caused the US to take actions that would lead to the radicalization of the muslim world as the US was forced to take what they knew would be retaliatory action. We may be playing into OBL's strategy, but I don't see where we have a choice. We simply HAVE TO retaliate or be seen as too weak, decadent, and enslaved to creature comforts, to be able defend our own nation (and they may be right if we let Arab nations dictate how we should react. Personally, I'm a "nip it in the bud" kind of guy. I would rather fight this battle now, rather than have to wait 5 years and face an even more formidable foe. One of things I'm finding most disgusting is the reaction of the Saudis as they appease their radical elements in declaring the US bombing of Afghanistan is illegal, or that the WTC attack was the fault of US favoritism to the Jews. After all, if some fanatic Israeli Jew decides to blow himself up in the middle of Times Square and kills several hundred people, does that give me the right to blame the Palestinians and Arabs, or the US for being too favorable to Arafat? I sensing some bad joo-joo on the horizon, and I'm considering looking at oil stocks again. I think we could see a disruption of oil out of the Mid-East again, as the weak spined Saudis are pressured to use the "oil weapon" again to influence US policy. Hawk