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To: Mr. Whist who wrote (202667)	11/14/2001 1:19:32 PM
From: gao seng	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

More Concrete Proof: Bill Clinton Is Still An Idiot By Isaiah Flair Yes. Bill Clinton is still an idiot. For an explanation of this Tarzan-istic assertion, let´s take a look at the recent speech of Former President Bill Clinton. Clinton, who is best known for getting impeached, repeatedly cheating on his wife, repeatedly taking questionable campaign contributions, and repeatedly lying under oath, recently had this to say: "Here in the United States, we were founded as a nation that practiced slavery…" That´s misleading, Bill. Where did you go to college again? Since you enjoy parsing words, I´ll point out that your use of the word "as" quite intentionally implies that slavery was an ideological foundation of our nation. It was not. Neither the Constitution nor the Declaration of Independence endorse slavery; rather, they started us down a path which resulted in the abolition of slavery, something which never should have existed in the first place. "…and slaves quite frequently were killed even though they were innocent." True. And a criminal act by every moral measure. But Bill, two points: One, what possible good does it do to bring this up 136 years after the last instance of it? Are you dead-set on encouraging racial conflict? Two, the killing of innocents is obviously referenced in order to draw some sort of moral equivalency between your historical view of America and the recent terrorist acts. That´s treason, Bill. It´s the rhetoric of a ditz. "[America is] paying a price today" Comments like that lay the blame for anti-American terrorism at the doorstep of those who are victimized by it. Hey, Bill, have you seen the picture of the baby who was held out of a World Trade Center window so she could breathe after terrorists crashed an airplane into the building? Do you know that the same baby is dead now? The baby isn´t to blame, Bill. The office-workers aren´t to blame either. Neither is this country. The ones to blame are the ones who destroyed the World Trade Center, along with those who supported, encouraged, and harbored them. "In the first Crusade, when the Christian soldiers took Jerusalem, they first burned a synagogue with 300 Jews in it and proceeded to kill every man, woman and child who was a Muslim on the Temple Mount. I can tell you that story is still being told today in the Middle East, and we are still paying for it" OK, Bill, first you inflame racial divisiveness, and now you´re setting religions against each other? This definitely qualifies as not helpful. You know, after Jimmy Carter left office, he started building houses for poor people. That qualifies as helpful. Please note the difference. And besides, if we could live in the now, instead of in the several hundred years ago, that would suit just fine. No one wants to argue Isaac vs. Ishmael over again. "Those of us who come from various European lineages are not blameless." Well, there´s your semantic triad, Bill. Now you´re using codfish-level rhetoric to pit nationality-based ethnicities against one another. Have I mentioned the degree to which you qualify as really, really, really not helpful? Houses, Bill. Building Houses. That qualifies as helpful. You´re an idiot, Bill. Still. toogoodreports.com

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (202667)	11/14/2001 1:23:25 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

I also would point out that government fraud/waste also is punished ... by American voters 1/2 billion dollars flying all over the world, more than any four prev. presidents combined...with hillary in tow....offices for both hillary and uncle billy more than any office of any other EX for uncle billy, more than any senator, for hillary of course........ seems your words are just a fart in a wind. hillary was elected...once...

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (202667)	11/14/2001 1:33:04 PM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

What happened to that $5 billion the Interior Dept was supposed to be holding for the Indians but lost? What elected official lost an election over that? What bureaucrat lost his job? Or even his annual raise? I also would point out that government fraud/waste also is punished ... by American voters instead of by the markets.

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (202667)	11/14/2001 2:14:40 PM
From: Srexley	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

"Big Business fraud is more insidious than government waste" Interesting view fj, but why does the private sector do so well in America if it is primarily fraudulent? That is my main problem with the lib view is that the picture painted for the masses (the people they claim to help) is that fraudulent people and practices are what is responsible for success. Therefor going after success is discouraged (and the power structure that sells this message is protected). I acknowledge that fraudulent activities occur in private or public ventures, but get disgusted by the negative view portrayed by the likes of yourself. It is either dumb or dishonest. IMO the masses are mostly ignorant of this truth and the leaders are dishonest. I know you can succeed in America, and I know that most successful companies (of which we have many) don;t have a conspiracy to crap on their people. If for no other reason than it is BAD BUSINESS.

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (202667)	11/14/2001 2:21:22 PM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

This is my #1 complaint against Big Media. Even worse than their partisan political bias is their pro-government bias. They were given their First Amendment privileges on the assumption that they would be watching government. They've booted that responsibility in favor of incessant consumer rip-off reports. Mean while the Federal government misplaces $50 billion here, $100 billion there and not even a page 20 story show up. I mean, even you - 10X better informed than the average Joe hadn't heard of the Indian rip-off.

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (202667)	11/14/2001 3:08:46 PM
From: CYBERKEN	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Government fraud is institutionalized, given the protection of the law. It is the FAILURE to dismiss workers and send them to pursue productive tasks that robs the aggregate public. Private companies have crises, go down, and the workers are forced to move on to productive positions, as defined by the changing labor market. (The worker bears part of the risks and should, as a result, become a more perceptive and intelligent taxpayer.) They are thus NOT dead weight, as they become in the public sector. CREATIVE DESTRUCTION. It isn't just for breakfast anymore. Take it away, and economics breaks down, and, ultimately, the society dies. Liberals just don't GET that...