To: The Philosopher who wrote (37542 ) 11/19/2001 11:39:37 PM From: E Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486 So now please show us the scenario you described. Here are my questions:Message 16677299 Message 16681823 I know also that Poet posted, not to you but to the board in general on IHub, this editorial to the effect that America is partly about the right to dissent:investorshub.com To which you replied by implying that the author of the piece (first him, then Poet, a lot of it going around) had denied the patriotism of those like your son writing:...Mr. Allen adopts the basic fallacy of failing to recognize that his right to write that stuff was bought by the blood of people whose patriotism he denies. Such as my son. investorshub.com I have now read Mr. Allen's editorial twice and find nothing whatever that could be interpreted as "denying the patriotism" of those who have defended this country with their blood.You wrote that he had done that, but it isn't there. Just as you did with Poet. You are drawing bizarre inferences. The man wrote, among other things, questioning the "love of liberty" of those who call for an end to free debate. Kind a tautology, really, Christopher. He said NOTHING about those who have spilled their blood to preserve the very liberties some Neanderthals call them traitors for exercising. Nothing. You have equated your son with Carolyn. How could you? I also know that on IHub you appear even more than on SI to have somehow lost it. Your unremittingly hateful posts to one poster are chilling to read. Maybe you are very worried about your son, and that is a true excuse. It's humanly understandable to wish those who question the wisdom or rightness of your son's choices, and of those of the Commander in Chief, would shut up. You know your son is brave, you believe the cause is just, and you don't want to hear it. I sometimes want people who take the Katha Pollitt/Oliver Stone positions, or variations thereon, to shut up, too. But for better or worse (worse when it is your particular ox you feel gored by freedom of speech), this is America. And however upset you are to hear dissent, it doesn't make your claim that "Poet made negative inferences about our young men in uniform" true. It wasn't true. You made it up.