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To: Bill Jackson who wrote (149318)11/25/2001 10:29:43 AM
From: greg s  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
re: there is fear at Intel

Fear and doubt about continued existence??

This would more aptly describe AMD, not Intel (and yes, I have friends who work for both firms).

Get real, Billy. You are either totally out of touch or are a troll. I lean toward the latter. Whadda ya do, stir it up just to smell the aroma?

greg



To: Bill Jackson who wrote (149318)11/25/2001 3:48:27 PM
From: semiconeng  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
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To: Bill Jackson who wrote (149318)11/25/2001 3:49:19 PM
From: semiconeng  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 186894
 
Constantine, Yes indeed, there is fear at Intel over their uncertain future and doubt for their continued existence. You said it well.
Bill


Hey... I don't know about you, but I'm-a- "quake'n in my boots".

Intel is most likely now ramping it's new 0.13u facility in Az, and that along with the Oregon, and Ca facilities will most likely flood the market with cheap Northwood P4's in Q1/02.

By the time intel gets it's Hudson Mass Fab up on 0.13u, the other facilities should be well on their way.... if not way past.... their introductions of "Prestonia" (0.13u Xeon), and McKinley/Madison (0.13u IA-64).

By the time intel FINALLY brings on line the Irish, and/or Israeli Fabs on 0.13u, The Western 0.13u Fabs should be on their 2nd, or 3rd steppings of Northwoood.... or it's successors. Can you say 3GHZ+.......

In The Meantime.....

There seems to be some evidence... circumstantial to be sure, that there MIGHT be some sort of Driver Update compatability issues, in some circumstances, with AMD XP and Windows XP. We'll see...

AMD XP is gasping for air on 0.18u, and 0.13u is nowhere in site. Will it get here on time.... ummmm revised on time, or will it be late again.... we'll see....

AMD's "Extended 64" seems like a good plan..... On Paper. Sometimes things turn out a bit differently In Reality. Will AMD be able to hit another "Athlon Style" home run? We'll see........

That's the thing..... When I look at intel going forward, I see strong plans. When I look at AMD, it's..... We'll see.

:-)

Semi