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To: i-node who wrote (142750)2/18/2002 12:59:35 PM
From: hmaly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575762
 
David Re...If a person commits rape and the victim chooses not to expose it (thereby resulting in charges not being brought), a rape was nonetheless committed; <<<<<

No rape has occurred legally. It is just hearsay.

; instead of being adjudicated guilty, each person must make up his or her own mind whether the rape occurred. <<<<<

Wrong. Doesn't the constitution say explicitly that every one is assumed innocent until proven guilty. Now I realize with this country's sh*tfaced jurisprudence system, your preposition just may in the future become accepted practice, it isn't yet; and I hope will never be the standard in the future.

I don't see it that way. While a court can determine whether a person will be punished for an alleged crime, courts do not determine whether an individual in fact committed a crime.<<<<<

Courts and juries do just that when a preponderence of evidence proves that to be the case. Are you thinking that we should go to a Guilty if convicted by the press type of system. Sorry but I don't buy it. We need to improve the jurisprudence system so the outcome of court cases match the evidence; not change to another system.

Many crimes are committed and criminals are acquitted, for lack of evidence or other reasons. They're still guilty; the courts just didn't find that the extraordinarily high standard of required proof for imposition of a sentence wasn't met. <<<<<

Here you are going in an area, I don't think you might necessarily want to go. Show me proof of a better system to replace the one we have. Either that or make the necessary changes to improve the current systems. But please, don't pull a Ted on me, and claim I should take your word that you know better than everyone else, who is guilty or innocent; when everyone knows Ted is much better at it than you. Call me skeptical on this one.

P. S. Just kidding on that Ted part.



To: i-node who wrote (142750)2/18/2002 2:48:46 PM
From: Mani1  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575762
 
There is no rape, give it up. Allegations yes, but not nearly enough to call someone a rapist.

Clinton was a sleaz who is no longer president. He should have done jail time for perjury. But calling him a rapist is unfair and wrong. Let it go.

This good guy bad guy discussion based on political party affiliations is silly.

Mani