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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (161132)	3/5/2002 2:03:17 PM
From: Andrew Shih	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Funny how hardly any Athlon-based laptops have shown up between then and now. What's AMD's laptop marketshare now? A bit more than "hardly any" I'd imagine. Also, the P4-M is going to be relegated to the desktop replacement market. Do you think that the P4-M will cross-over with the PIII-M in units shipped this year? Personally, I'd go with an Athlon4 based on PowerNow. How fast is a P4-M going to be running at 1.2 GHz on batteries? -Andrew

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (161132)	3/5/2002 2:42:29 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 186894

Andrew, update on P4-M performance: pcmag.com Business Winstone 2001 degrades 3.5% when transitioning to battery-saving mode on P4-M. No results on CC Winstone 2001, though. Oh, and Athlon 4 1.3 GHz (QuantiSpeed rated 1500+) scored 41.7% less than a P4-M at 1.7 GHz. The credibility of "QuantiSpeed" is starting to collapse with the mobile segment. Tenchusatsu

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (161132)	3/6/2002 2:03:59 AM
From: ptanner	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Tench, re: "Funny how hardly any Athlon-based laptops have shown up between then and now." AMD stated in their 4Q01 CC: "Yeah, I think that were we stand is that we will probably close the end of the fourth quarter being somewhere around 40% share of the US Retail mobile market, not quite as strong as we had hoped. jc-news.com AMD's stated goal from prior CC was 50% by year-end. They did make quite a recovery from basically zero in mid-year. This is probably a small sector of the mobile market and AMD's statement certainly doesn't match many of the observations noted by SI posters wrt products on the shelves. -PT