To: tejek who wrote (143379 ) 3/23/2002 11:49:37 AM From: bacchus_ii Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1583764 RE:” Message 17215370 & Message 17216853 Tejek - I took what Gottfried said as a slam against not only Jews but Americans in general." Ted: Cory Gault –<That was my original point when I reacted to Gottfried and not the first time he has slammed the USA on this board. He is exactly what Albert said he was>" But if a president of USA and it's entourage say so: "The focus has been on the anti-Semitic aspect of the remarks, about Jews having a "stranglehold'' on the media and such."suntimes.com Also: "Donont forget that we had to fight for this land from the British, to get our independance, and the Palestinian are doing the same thing, the whole world agree with them except the US, does is it imply that the world is stupid? by the way, did you listen to Nixon tapes just released lately; he was clearly complaining about the power of the Jews in this country and Bill Graham agreeing with him, "claiming that Jews control the media", which is a fact, the irony is that his Secretary of state was a Jew : Henry Kissinger, there is a book called "the Jewish Phenomenon" that you should read, why don't you do a research about the CEO of the US network u be surprised, Nixon was not an anti Jew, he raised the financial aid to Israel more than anyone from millions to billions, what he was saying is the truth,buy u know what it is America, it is capitalism, if Jews are successfull and powerfull let it be."Message 17210990 Cameron reported Dec. 13 that federal agents were afraid to criticize Israel. "Investigators within the DEA, INS and FBI have all told Fox News that to pursue or even suggest Israeli spying ... is considered career suicide." atlanta.creativeloafing.com So do I .... now (career being SI poster here) You should read the whole article…. Gottfried PS: On a positive note, those hundreds of Israeli reserve soldiers refusing to serve in the occupied Palestinian territories are real patriots and have more courage than suicide bombers because they will have to face jail, humiliation and the horde of there compatriots for many years. PPS: I still believe that if I had used any other group in my 4 words expressions I would ended as being maybe clue-less, but not racist. Also, in my mind, controlling something is not pejorative by itself. It’s not because English is L2 for me that I came in all this trouble, but not knowing certain politically correctness subtlety and even after hundreds of post that resulted, I still don’t. So I will no more adventure on this mined field.