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To: axial who wrote (22680)	3/30/2002 3:28:51 PM
From: Karen Lawrence	Respond to of 281500

I think your post is brilliantly insightful.

To: axial who wrote (22680)	3/30/2002 3:55:50 PM
From: Condor	Respond to of 281500

Your post may well be the one to bookmark out of the 20,000+ posts here. C

To: axial who wrote (22680)	3/30/2002 4:15:10 PM
From: SirRealist	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I don't believe it's the failure of Israel and the US to arrive at a political solution. I believe the Palestinians take the lion's share of the blame for the failure. When there is an unfaithful spouse in a marriage, does the blame fall on the faithful one or his/her best buddy? You're right that Israel is surrounded. It has been for 53 years. If anything though, the success of its negotiations with some other Arab states may make it less surrounded than before. As noted by Hawk, if it comes to war the only compelling motive/principle is to win. I do not see much chance that any but Israel can accomplish exactly that. Consider that this will be the first war Israel has fought without its opposition being heavily supplied by the Soviets, too. But I could be wrong. That hero Osama Bin-Superman could fly to the rescue and save the day for the Palestinians....

To: axial who wrote (22680)	3/30/2002 4:26:55 PM
From: BigBull	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Disregarding the whole regrettable series of events leading to this point, and disregarding the question of "truth" (which has been lost in the opposing constituencies) the question now becomes whether it is possible (or even desirable) for Israel to continue in its existence in the present, accelerating dynamic. Strange, bizarre, and unbelievable. Exactly what would you disregard?

To: axial who wrote (22680)	3/30/2002 8:48:47 PM
From: JohnM	Respond to of 281500

Better: How long can the unstable dynamics of the Arab-Israeli situation be maintained at status quo? Nice post, Jim.

To: axial who wrote (22680)	3/30/2002 9:43:56 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

There is no conceivable series of military actions (including nuclear strikes) that will terminate this externally funded and externally driven hostility towards Israel. Do you have any evidence for this assertion? You speak as if every conceivable series of military actions had already been tried, and failed. In fact, Israel has been extremely restrained, or handcuffed (take your pick), in the use of force, with the US quick to say, 'mustn't actually kill Arafat or drive out your enemies; Arafat remains central to the process'. So military force has not been tried -- yet. Some situations are not solvable by political negotiation until after a war.