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To: Ilaine who wrote (23372)4/4/2002 1:10:23 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Some more details about the gunmen in the Church of the Nativity, from NRO Corner:

WHAT'S THE MATTER HERE: [Rod Dreher] The Vatican today issued a statement condemning the Israelis for "revenge attacks," a strange way of describing self-defense. Does the Vatican honestly expect the Israelis to sit back until every last one of them is killed by Palestinian suicide bombers? A frustrated Vatican source just spoke to me about the Palestinian terrorists currently occupying the Church of the Nativity: "The Palestinians shot the locks off the doors, and barged in over the protests of the clergy. They started shooting at Israelis to draw fire, so the Israelis would attack a Christian shrine. Sabbah, the Latin Patriarch [and Arafat crony -- RD], says he offered them sanctuary, which isn't true, and that they were unarmed, which is way not true! It isn't his Church anyway! It belongs to the Greek Orthodox, Armenians and Franciscans, who have exclusive Catholic rights. The Franciscans are hopping mad, but can't say anything because they have to be 'pro-Palestinian.' But now they cannot even ask them politely to leave because of the Patriarch's false, lying, asinine statement. The priest who was reported killed is alive, as you know. However, the Palestinians leaked the false report to discredit the Israelis and are now holding that same priest and some nuns hostage in the Church as human shields. Again, the Christians do not say anything, because they have to be 'pro-Palestinian.' How soon will it be before they start killing Christian clergy and the few pilgrims that are there, in order to say that the Israelis are causing the deaths of Christians?"
Posted 3:04 PM | [Link]

GOOD POINT: [Rod Dreher] A reader asks, "Why didn't the Palestinian gunmen take refuge in the mosque just across Manger Square from the Church of the Nativity?" Ah yes, that mosque. That's the one from which the muezzin issued the daily call to prayer during the Pope's mass in Manger Square two years ago -- just to show the pontiff who's boss in Bethlehem. The answer, reader, is that the Palestinians want to provoke Israel into attacking a Christian church so that the West goes berserk.
Posted 3:59 PM | [Link]



To: Ilaine who wrote (23372)4/4/2002 6:20:40 AM
From: Condor  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
I can't even imagine a government invading a Catholic church to arrest people seeking sanctuary. And I am not all that devout.

I too am a practicing casual Catholic and if my church were harbouring terrorists or criminals, I'd be first to say "Charge!!".
I firmly believe most Catholics would.
Political sanctuary?....I'd want to know the facts first. I would be intolerant of those who had practiced true criminal and violent acts.

C



To: Ilaine who wrote (23372)4/4/2002 6:18:31 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Respond to of 281500
 
In that case, he's not seeking sanctuary, but a vantage point.

Nicely put. However, I would still suggest that the Israelis show tactical restraint in order to avert excessive damage to such an historical building.

But there's nothing to prevent them from smothering every potenial "vantage point" with counter-sniper fire.

And frangible bullets, which shatter upon striking hard surfaces such as brick and mortar, would be useful as well.

Hawk