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To: fyodor_ who wrote (78268)	4/24/2002 5:58:03 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Respond to of 275872

Fyo, Re: "AMD to say that the 64bit Windows version they would be demonstrating tomorrow was .NET" For demonstration purposes, AMD would obviously use the current generation of Windows. Intel did the same thing with Itanium, first demoing the system with a 64-bit version of Windows 2000, which was never released. As for production of a Windows 64, it might not be ready for any kind of XP or .NET launch that Microsoft is planning in the future, so it may be pushed out to align with the 2003 generation of Windows. Remember that Microsoft is still running the show here, and they will do what benefits Microsoft, not what benefits x86-64 or AMD. wbmw

To: fyodor_ who wrote (78268)	4/24/2002 6:17:13 PM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

fyo, The current code is a development version of the .NET If this is the case, and if x86-64 is folded into .NET release in early 2003, this would be huge. Way above my expectations. My expectations were to get full 64 support within a year of release. I hope there will be some clarifications issued soon by MSFT. Also, what about the Pro and Home versions? .NET is only for servers. The desktop roadmap is XP second edition (I don't know the target date), followed by Longhorn, which just slipped to 2004. Joe

To: fyodor_ who wrote (78268)	4/24/2002 6:23:32 PM
From: Petz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

re: "The current code is a development version of the .NET" I'm a little confused. I thought .NET was just the new name for Microsoft's development environment, Visual Studio .NET. You can install Visual Studio .NET on a Windows 98 machine, so I didn't think there was a new operating system associated with ".NET." But, with a little digging, I found that .NET is a set of products and standards to improve client-server computing, or to extend Microsofts domination of it, depending on your point of view. The enterprise server programs are listed by Microsoft at microsoft.com They are all pre-.NET-strategy Windows 2000 products. But looking a little further, I saw the only real .NET product, other than the development environment: "Windows .NET Server Beta 3." See microsoft.com So is "Windows .NET Server Beta 3" the server version that Microsoft has adapted for the Hammer, sorry, Opteron? I assume so, and that a 64-bit version of this server operating system will be running on a dual-opteron machine at the annual meeting. Unfortunately, they probably won't have it connected to 64 GB of memory, or running millions of transactions, to demonstrate the performance that a true 64-bit server is capable of. Here is a short description of the new "Windows .NET Server Beta 3" from PC Magazine: pcmag.com Petz