To: mmmary who wrote (3992 ) 5/17/2002 10:21:15 PM From: d:oug Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 5315 "What I favor... is lots of give and take on both sides." : mmmary, : The above thoughts are spoken by everyone it seems. : Your recent posting highlights this requirement of equal opportunity for everyone to express opinions using posting so that whenever one encounters what they understand as dishonest stock promotions, that they being at the top of abilities in trading these markets, that they are able to supply a common sense and helpful service to those on the naive side to both warn them to beware of such and either leave or increase their abilities, else they risk their investments. : This does touch on another point i perfer to exclude from this discussion, that being a minimum requirment needed to join for example iHub or Si or even Raging Bull types. Each web site has a text of works one must accept before being granted posting abilities, plus i'am sure a disclaimer for those just reading the web site states similiar stuff. : But lets agree that these words are worthless, as they really are, and agree that everyone on this thread these past weeks do have "What I favor... is lots of give and take on both sides." as an objective so that a good and healthy web site is obtained. That meaning those posting to you on this thread are not part of that evil activity of which you speak of, and of course that seems to be the very issue in these posts. To me who does not trade these markets, and does not want to, i can only speak in general terms, for example, battles between folks using Good v. Evil, and on this thread i will focus on you and (Bob) Zumbrunnen and create a picture of a line that seperates the Good side from the Evil side and expression my opinion that both of you two view yourself on the Good side while the other is on Evil side. Now imagine the possibility that you and (Bob) Zumbrunnen are both on the Good side, and someone evil on the Evil side placed two mirrors such that when both of you two on the Good side look over onto that Evil side, that you both see the other's reflection and not knowing that its a reflection, but that he/she is really on the Evil side, while you both are really on the Good side. (yes, i can really Babble :o) ok, What to do, to change this battle field, as i see nothing that will. or Maybe if an object could be placed between mmmary and (Bob) Zumbrunnen? but Who? As everyone on this thread seems to either stand behind one or the other and sees the same mirror reflections i think exist as images false. ok, My suggestion is a live human being of deep trading abiliy that hopefully is clueless on the mmmary and (Bob) Zumbrunnen war zone. ok, But he or she must already have enough trustfullness attached so that their opinion is valued. Also, has to be fearless to walk into that zone between Good and Evil so that this person can block that false viewing i mentioned done by those mirrors Evil placed, with result that this person can obtain a "fresh" look. ok, One more qualifier, this person much want to engage market evils. or Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss : Name Dave Gore Member Since 03/18/98 Member ProfileMember 4480556 : SI: StockTalk: Dave Gore's Trades That Make SenseSubject 52162 THREAD HONOR > > : FORBES MAGAZINE "Top 10" Stock Message Board On The Net (March 2002)forbes.com : Started By: Dave Gore Date: May 9, 2002 MANIPULATION - Help Stop The Criminal Activity.Subject 52887 : Name Dave Gore Member Since 03/18/98 Member ProfileMember 4480556 : For reference, if anyone thinks asking Dave Gore to engage this thread's discussion, for example point him to start with this post, then the following is needed to get up to speed. Message #3992 from mmmary at May 17, 2002 chris: I hate seeing investors conned I don't like people who aide and abet investors being conned. If bob and matt's plan is to do company stock promotion, as their last biz plan showed, then I am against it and will post my opinion about that. If their plan is to indirectly aide and abet promoters by discriminately enforcing the TOU so promoters can mislead and defraud while honest negative posters can't even post, I'm against that also and will post about it. People need to know that the posts on ihub are basically stock promotion and hype jobs. They need to know that honest negative posters like myself are not allowed to post there, just like agora and i2i. They need to know that they are only seeing cheerleading hype \posts and not real honest information.