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MANIPULATION IS RAMPANT --- Can We Stop It?
An SI Board Since May 2002
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Emcee:  Dave Gore Type:  Unmoderated
MANIPULATION ---- Speak Your Mind ----- Help Stop The Criminal Activity.

Many of us have complained about Market Makers and Specialists for years. But what about Hedge Funds or slanted media coverage? What about the rumor of paid "bashers" and "hype artists" on message boards like Yahoo and RagingBull, where one can create unlimited free aliases?

What are your thoughts about May 8th? Does it seem odd that the Market drifted down for weeks on relatively good economic news (i.e. B2B ratio over 1.00 again, Consumer Confidence at 108+, ISM well above 50 indicating growth, no Fed. Rate increase, strong GDP, etc.). Then, suddenly some tech stocks went up 20-30% in one day on only modestly encouraging news from CSCO and QLGC?

Did you see how the options call volume on the QQQ's, CSCO, QLGC and others increased dramatically on May 7th and early on the 8th, with some making gains of 1200% overnight?

What proof or strong circumstantial evidence do you have about manipulation? Or do you believe that manipulation is minimal or just a part of the system to be dealt with?

Do you think the small guy is getting fed up and will leave the Market for good unless the fairness improves?

Most importantly, what can we do about it? Is there anyone who might have the desire and power to help improve things?

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POST YOUR THOUGHTS HERE, THEN E-MAIL THEM
---- it will make a difference! We were outraged by Enron and Analysts, and the media covered it.

E-MAIL THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND PEOPLE
1) Your State Senators
senate.gov

2) Mr. Levin's website, head of the Senate Subcommittee dealing with these things:
levin.senate.gov

3) SEC website: sec.gov
4) NASD website: nasd.gov
5) Wall Street Journal: wsj.com
6) CNBC website: cnbc.com
7) Dept. of Justice: doj.gov

Anybody else you can think of...your local newspaper, etc.
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589I thought that stuff was against the law. I can't believe they would do suchDon Pueblo-12/17/2003
588I like it! Let's do a total re-form of the markets. They need it.peter michaelson-12/17/2003
587lol10K a day-12/16/2003
586Reuters <b>Calpers Sues NYSE, Alleges Fraud</b> Tuesday December 16,Bob Mohebbi-12/16/2003
585<i>I've not thought carefully enough about each point you make to agreTheStockStalker-12/7/2003
584It took me all of about 15 minutes to come up with that although I 've been rrufff-12/7/2003
583I've not thought carefully enough about each point you make to agree or disaDan Duchardt-12/7/2003
582Sad but true - actually, the real reason is that people are so cynical that theyrrufff-12/6/2003
581I guess we will have to wait for new lows on the Nasdaq before this place picks TheStockStalker-12/6/2003
580Dan's post was a good one. I'm wondering why you had to go into an "rrufff-5/1/2003
579<i>Some of us prefer shabby to sleazy.</i> Why in the world would LPS5-5/1/2003
578Some of us prefer shabby to sleazy.Raymond Duray-5/1/2003
577<i>Thanks for pointing out to the thread that I'm no longer in your thLPS5-5/1/2003
576Remarkable. Thanks for pointing out to the thread that I'm no longer in yoRaymond Duray-5/1/2003
575Yawn. What else have you got? Message 18889774 :)LPS5-5/1/2003
574Dan, My kudos. Your post is one of the most succinct, elegant and useful declarRaymond Duray-5/1/2003
573I can't think of any cases off hand where people who have been defrauded werDan Duchardt-5/1/2003
572LOL! Now let's hope the regulators catch the guy who apparently put a gun tLPS5-4/30/2003
571Well with todays "Landmark" settlement, even people like Dave can and TheStockStalker-4/28/2003
570Why Fear Hedge Funds? by Christopher Mayer Posted March 18, 2003 In the greatLPS5-3/19/2003
569Spitzer and the Myth of Independent Analysis by James Sheehan Posted January LPS5-1/14/2003
568Spitzer’s Shakedown: His rough game was always about money and politics by AlanLPS5-1/7/2003
567All good points. I obviously can't say that I necessarily agree with all of LPS5-12/19/2002
566Well... not all of us are all that pleased with the performance of the regulatoDan Duchardt-12/16/2002
565LOL, hey Stalker. I know, but it's just a coincidence...right? It's quiLPS5-12/12/2002
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