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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (17250)	6/18/2002 5:16:28 PM
From: MeDroogies	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 19080

Am I wrong, or did I read that .NET was not being pushed at this point? From what I've read, most enterprises were somewhat gunshy of it.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (17250)	6/18/2002 5:41:54 PM
From: Hardly B. Solipsist	Respond to of 19080

Oracle has priced iAS lower than the competition (and it's very widely used because there is a free version for developers), but I don't know what the prices are. Internally they use it as a key part of the architecture for applications. MSFT has an engine built into the O/S that acts sort of like an app server, except that they do things differently (of course). I'm not an expert, but I believe that they have decided to support things at the "web services" level without supporting infrastructure like EJB's (that level is owned by Sun, so MSFT would rather eat a bug than go along with that).

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (17250)	6/19/2002 12:32:35 AM
From: ehasfjord	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 19080

Remember DIGITAL EQUIPMENT before it was bought out... Well, to go WAY BACK, DEC had a very nice relational data base product. ORCL bought it, and has improved upon DEC's old product. So far as dealing with RDB, ORCL has the market. This is, of course, IMHO, and coming from an old data processor - (they call it IT now). Hell, some of the manuals still are word for word from the old DEC manuals. Bottom line, you will get more bang for the bucks using ORCL than SEBL, MSFT and the others. Thank God I'm retired and don't have to keep up with the new technology. Take Care and Best Wishes!

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (17250)	6/19/2002 11:25:38 AM
From: Michael Olin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 19080

Lizzie, 9iAS is a separate product from the database server. 9iAS (Enterprise Edition) includes just about everything but the database and the development tools (Forms, Reports, JDeveloper). The last time I installed it there were over 100 components. You can get complete information at technet.oracle.com List pricing on 9iAS is very reasonable, $400/named user (let's not get into the "named user" debate again...) with a minimum license of 10 users/processor on hardware that can have no more than 4 processors. The minimum user count goes up as the hardware gets more powerful. This is just list pricing and doesn't include about 28% for maintenance/support. It also doesn't include the 20% "standard discount" you would get just by calling an Oracle sales rep. You can see the pricing at the Oracle Store (http://oraclestore.oracle.com). -Michael