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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: J. C. Dithers who wrote (54331)	8/10/2002 12:35:32 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

That goes back nicely to that responsibility argument we were having. Even if you are a cause, and are therefore "responsible" it does not follow that your responsibility makes you culpable in any way. If JLA is being JLA, that should be his prerogative. And if Neocon needs a break, that is his choice. Adults, making free choices, based on their own internal states, coupled with what they can take in from this environment, is what this place is all about. Of course that is just one opinion. Clearly other people see this place as a tool for becoming group organisms, and they enjoy working in concert. That doesn't particularly appeal to me. But I can understand how it appeals to other people, who like to be part of something bigger than themselves. What we have here, is probably a thought divide between individualists, and groupists. Individualists have trouble understanding why anyone would give up any autonomy to be part fo a group, and groupists don't understand why individualists value their autonomy above people who "should" be part of their group. It is probably a lot like the religious debates- in that I'm sure there is no real answer- it is simply a matter of taste.

To: J. C. Dithers who wrote (54331)	8/11/2002 4:46:27 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Sorry JC. No comparison. If I am responsible.. I didn't threaten to use any intimate personal information about Neo or a member of his family a la CH and Poet.

To: J. C. Dithers who wrote (54331)	8/11/2002 9:18:39 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 82486

"What if jallen were responsible for running off Neocon from SI? If Neocon decides to leave SI, I will miss him. If he and JLA decide to have a tremendous battle over any issue, personal or not, I will be greatly interested in the dialogue. I have seen the integrity and tenaciousness of both tested in the face of all comers and am quite impressed. If either of them got whipped beyond repair I would not expect it and would find it remarkable. For your "what if" to work, JLA would have to morf into Hannable Hector or something. Hard to figure that one.