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To: maceng2 who wrote (37818)8/14/2002 12:38:57 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
If your State decides to vote . . . . That is what you are effectively saying is OK.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

When we got into it, there were two countries, North VietNam, communist, South VietNam, democracy. North VietNam was trying to impose communism on South VietNam by force.

We belonged to SEATO, South East Asian Treaty Organization, similar to NATO. We had a treaty with South VietNam that obligated us to use military force to protect them from North VietNam, just as we would be obligated to use military force to protect Great Britain if attacked, just as Great Britain would be obligated to protect the US if attacked.

BTW, thank you, and NATO in general, for sending planes to patrol the US after 9/11. We are extremely grateful.



To: maceng2 who wrote (37818)8/15/2002 1:35:24 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
If your State decides to vote in a Republican Governor, would it be right for another Democratic State on the other side of the country to send over it's local Air National Guard to napalm you, your children and your whole neighborhood?

Hmmm... so they really "vote" in communist and totalitarian nations? They have vibrant opposition parties with alternative views who are permitted to present those views and freely solicit votes from citizens??

I guess I must have missed something.

And btw, if some Communist party was able to use violence, intimidation, and coercion to SEIZE control over the government of my state, you're damn right I would want the Federal Government to send troops to restore political freedoms.

Again, the operative word is "vote".

And that requires a pluralistic system where the shape of the government is "purchased" through citizen's votes in the marketplace of ideas.

Hawk