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To: idler who wrote (124263)	9/30/2002 11:50:09 AM
From: Kayaker	Respond to of 152472

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To: idler who wrote (124263)	9/30/2002 12:06:27 PM
From: Jon Koplik	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Huge climate change worries -- see this thing written by a Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution scientist (not some freeze-dried food, gold, and guns kind of guy). (See y'all in Florida soon (?)) whoi.edu Excerpts : ****************************** Global warming could actually lead to a big chill in some parts of the world. If the atmosphere continues to warm, it could soon trigger a dramatic and abrupt cooling throughout the North Atlantic region—where, not incidentally, some 60 percent of the world’s economy is based. ********************** And when I say “abrupt,” I mean: These changes could happen within a decade, and they could persist for hundreds of years. You could see the changes in your lifetime, and your grandchildren’s grandchildren will still be confronting them. ********************************* These shifts almost certainly involved changes in the ocean’s circulation. There were shutdowns and restartings of the Ocean Conveyor. These warm-to-cold transitions happen in about 3 to 10 years. The cold periods lasted for 500 to 1,000 years. Such oscillations in temperature and ocean circulation have occurred on a regular basis. About 1,000 years ago, during a period of unusually warm temperatures in the North Atlantic, the Norse established settlements and vineyards in Greenland that would not be possible today. Those settlements were abandoned about 500 years ago, when we believe the most recent shutdown of the North Atlantic Ocean circulation system occurred. *************************** Jon.

To: idler who wrote (124263)	9/30/2002 12:18:14 PM
From: Andrew N. Cothran	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Idler: I read the articles and thought of posting. Unfortunately, I do not know how to transfer articles from news magazines to this thread. But I figured that some smarter guy would know what to do and would do it before I got around to it. Really interesting articles, especially coming from the Economist. It should make all the Eurocrats sit up and take notice. But I doubt that it will have the effect of changing anthing since the EU, like Moses, writes its rules on stone. Very interesting that the article says exactly the same thing that Dr. J said on a trip to Europe more than a year ago,comments for which he was widely lambasted by all of the Euro press including the Financial Times of London. Dr. J must really be feeling really vindicated by now.