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To: RetiredNow who wrote (61871)10/14/2002 8:27:32 PM
From: Tom D  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 77399
 
OT: Muslim tyrants

MM, its not Islam. The problem is that not enough Muslims practice Islam. Likewise, the problem with Christianity is that not enough Christians practice it.

In response to Victor Lazlo, #61849 << some of the extremist adherents of the "peaceful religion" are at it again, kiling 200 people in a nightclub in Bali. Prior to that they were setting off bombs in India.>> It is shameful. Kind of reminds us of how the extremist adherents of the Christian religion love their enemies in Ireland.

But why should we judge religions by their extremists? Lets look at our model mainstream Christian, President Bush. Today we are treated to a feelgood story about bible study in the White House.
story.news.yahoo.com

So how do these Christians who faithfully read the bible behave? Let’s see now. One of the core tenets of Christianity—is loving ones enemies. How does the Christian president, without any mandate from Congress and with the slimmest electoral mandate imaginable reinvent our foreign policy doctrine?

A critique of Bush’s Septembert 20 manifesto stipulates, slate.msn.com
"The purpose of our actions will always be to eliminate a specific threat to the United States or our allies and friends. The reasons for our actions will be clear, the force measured, and the cause just." But this is linguistic trickery. Instead of specifying the threats against which you'll attack pre-emptively, you assert vaguely that those threats will be specific. Instead of giving clear reasons, you assert that your reasons will be clear. Instead of quantifying the force you'll use, you say your force will be properly measured. You leave the rules vague so that in practice, by filling in the blanks later, you get to make up the rules as you go along.

Bush talked a game of bipartisan cooperation when he campaigned for the presidency, and after he “won”, he and his administration were so hostile to moderate members of his own party (not to mention the minority democrats) that Jeffords bailed out on him and changed parties. Bush's arrogance cost him a historic opportunity for the Republican party to control the White House, the Senate and the House. Now Bush has to scramble to regain the senate. How can we do that?

New York Times 9.27.02 nytimes.com

Karl Rove told a Republican party meeting last January that talk of war and terror themes could play to the G.O.P.'s advantage in the 2002 elections. In June… a computer disk containing a presentation by Mr. Rove revealed a White House political strategy to focus on the war as a way to "maintain a positive issue environment". Andrew Card, the White House chief of staff, remarked that the White House waited until the start of the election season to promote action in Iraq because "from a marketing point of view, you don't introduce new products in August"

It is problematic to talk up invasion of Iraq if the country is actually populated by people. For the first few hundred years after the sea pirates came to America and slaughtered the creative, imaginative native people already living here (OK, MM they were probably inflicting Muslim-like tyranny on themselves), we justified it because, after all, they were subhuman savages. So lets lets make foreign policy in the Middle East easier by discrediting Islam. Muslims are just a bunch of people who would be inflicting tyranny on themselves if it were not for the great Christian love for their enemies that the U.S. has been selflessly offering to them.

Ernest Becker received the Pulitzer Prize in 1974 for his book “The Denial of Death”. The foreword states “Becker's greatest achievement has been to create a science of evil. It has remained for Becker to make crystal clear the way in which warfare is a social ritual for purification of the world in which the enemy is assigned the role of being dirty, dangerous, and atheistic. Becker…shames us with the knowledge of how easily we will shed blood to purchase the assurance of our own righteousness.”

Ghandi was once quoted as saying: “If Christians practiced Christianity, there would be no other religions”. His insights into the Christian, Muslim and Hindu religions are listed here. thoughtcafe.co.uk

Best regards,
Tom



To: RetiredNow who wrote (61871)10/15/2002 9:41:56 AM
From: MHA  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 77399
 
Would you like to see Pakistani troops stationed in the U.S. or Great Britain?

Don't maintain double standards!