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To: one_less who wrote (64758)10/29/2002 4:58:43 PM
From: Poet  Respond to of 82486
 
You have made the distinctions eminently clear to this attention-payer.



To: one_less who wrote (64758)10/29/2002 5:16:51 PM
From: MulhollandDrive  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486
 
this is your original statement, which i have tried to parse (perhaps incorrectly)...

Those without a conscience would see no reason for concern unless an actionable crime has been uncovered. If you are not discovered and exposed you have not committed an actionable crime. No actionable crime, no violation what-so-ever. The notion that there could be principles of humanity that we are all accountable to is alien...accountable to who and for what?

it would seem that you are implying that those "without a conscience" have the ability to act criminally because there is no "conscience" dictating behaviour..

and of course i agree with that as there are indeed sociopaths operating in society reflecting that mentality...i would categorize the john allen muhammad, the dc sniper as such.

but there are also those "with conscience" who's consciences are maladjusted or otherwise distorted. in fact their "conscience" is a driving force for what we normally consider truly aberrant, sociopathic behaviour.

i would characterize the religious zealots who believe as a matter of conscience, it is their god given responsibility to purge the world of "infidels" and non-adherents in that group.

so i disagree with your point. "having a conscience upon which forms principles for living is not equivalent to fanaticism..."

it can be at the very core and root of it.



To: one_less who wrote (64758)10/29/2002 5:54:07 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
I think in that case the "innocent", as you define them, were perceived to be an enemy.

Conscientious objectors aren't killing anyone in the service of their belief, so I fail to see how that works for you.



To: one_less who wrote (64758)10/29/2002 8:00:38 PM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
One who terrorizes the
innocent to inflict harm on a military enemy is unconscionable and the act of
extremism


I happen to agree with you, but some extremists don't. How do you prove they are wrong and we are right?