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To: LindyBill who wrote (1329)	10/30/2002 1:52:04 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6901

You're right, posting it there would have caused a fire storm. My opinion is drugs are the cause. So many black kids listen to Ice whatever rapping about making a million pedaling drugs and skip the education and job parts of life.

To: LindyBill who wrote (1329)	10/30/2002 2:00:43 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 6901

>>Rosier?s interview subjects readily admit that the downward trajectory of their lives began in the seventies with periods of drug abuse and sleeping around?behavior that elite culture had largely de-stigmatized.<< Leon Dash, a black reporter for the Washington Post, chronicled a family that had three generations of members on welfare, and came to the same conclusion. He got the Pulitzer Prize and the Robert F. Kennedy Journalism award. Highly recommended. washingtonpost.com

To: LindyBill who wrote (1329)	10/30/2002 3:06:53 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 6901

Suspected Gang Members Arrested in New Jersey The Associated Press Published: Oct 30, 2002 ap.tbo.com NEWARK, N.J. (AP) - Forty-one people identified as members of the Latin Kings street gang were arrested Wednesday on charges that included attempted murder and drug distribution, authorities said. The gang operates in suburban New Jersey and recruited members at high schools in New York, Pennsylvania and Illinois, said Peter C. Harvey, a state attorney general. Authorities said they confiscated 19 stolen vehicles, 26 pounds of cocaine, handguns and three assault rifles. They described the gang as well-organized and extremely violent. The Latin Kings "represent the new organized crime in the state of New Jersey, U.S. Attorney Chris Christie said. AP-ES-10-30-02 1433EST

To: LindyBill who wrote (1329)	10/30/2002 3:37:32 PM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6901

I mentioned "culture" yesterday on FADG. So many things happened in the 60's and 70's that unless a person experienced both sides of before and after, they wouldn't see the "world owes me a living" change. And unfortunately, much of that change came about when politicians decided to put extra effort in trying to buy votes, rather than help alleviate the problems. Thanks for the link of that article, LB. One only has to insert Vietnamese instead of Black, and easily we can see the difference. Our new Vietnamese citizens and others from that part of the world work so hard (most of them) and we very seldom hear of crimes coming from those relatively new Americans. And that explanation is cultural. At the same moment in the sixties when Indianapolis experienced a moderate degree of deindustrialization, the black street began to embrace the entitlement-seeking, guilt-mongering, society-is-to-blame worldview now so drearily familiar among black leaders. This resentment-based ideology has dissuaded legions of blacks from seeking the American Dream out of the wrongheaded belief that the country is too racist and morally corrupt for them to embrace it.