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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (1803)	11/1/2002 6:12:19 PM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 6901

Insider notes from United Press International for Nov. 1 ... UPI Hears was right Thursday about former chief of staff Shaul Mofaz being wooed by premier Ariel Sharon to become Israel's new defense minister. Now we hear that Sharon is trying to catch an even bigger fish. At a meeting scheduled for late Friday at Sharon's ranch, former premier Benjamin Netanyahu is going to be offered the job of foreign minister, replacing the Nobel Peace Prize laureate Shimon Peres. Signs are that Netanyahu will say no, reckoning that Sharon's minority government cannot hold out and that he can seize the leadership of the Likud party in internal maneuverings before early elections are forced next spring. -0- The Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, widely seen as crushed by the Afghan war and the death of its military chief Juma Namangani, is reviving fast, and has forged new links with other Islamic radicals in the region and with Chinese Uighur separatists to create the new Islamic Movement of Central Asia. Krygyz National Security Service chief Kalyk Imankulov claims the new group is gathering strength in mountainous areas of northern Afghanistan. Uzbek sources say that IMCA, under the leadership of the IMU's political leader Takhir Yuldashev, has adopted the old IMU goal of replacing secular governments in the region with an Islamic caliphate, and is planning a popular uprising next spring. This casts a new light on planned NATO exercises in eastern Uzbekistan next year, announced by Uzbekistan's Minister of Emergency Situations, Botir Parpiyev. The exercises will be held in the Fergana region in 2003, the center of Islamic fundamentalist opposition to President Islam Karimov's government. -0- Turkish voters go to the polls Sunday with no idea who their next prime minister will be, nor who will pick him. The moderate Islamic AKP (Justice and Development party) is expected to win the election, though its leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan is barred from Parliament, and won't say who will be his substitute choice for prime minister. This is to make it clear that he still holds the reins. But Turkish President Ahmet Necdet Sezer told reporters at this week's National Day reception that he and he alone has the constitutional authority to appoint a prime minister. Erdogan told a source for UPI Hears the president had better wake up and smell the coffee, and realize the AKP is "a different party, unlike what the people have been used to before. It is better for everybody to get used to the idea."

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (1803)	11/1/2002 6:12:58 PM
From: kumar	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 6901

seems to me u want to split hairs between "halfway solution" and "compromise". cheers, kumar

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (1803)	11/1/2002 7:02:28 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 6901

Hi Nadine - got my ass kicked in court today, as I expected, and the client's ass was kicked, too, despite my warnings and urging him to settle. This was my second trial representing an Afghani in front of a certain very tough old Virginia judge. I told him, I know this judge very well, don't lie at all in court, or he'll kill you. Sure enough, as soon as I finished my closing argument the judge told me that he did not believe anything my client said, and slammed him. Two different cases, same judge, same results. I was expecting it, so wasn't surprised. Plus, when you're getting paid by the hour, losing doesn't hurt so bad. I did manage to save him about $10K, but he's liable for $15K more than they offered to settle. He wants me to appeal, and take it all the way to the Supreme Court. I was meditating on how Middle Eastern truth differs from other truths, logged on, and read your message. Very a propos. My experience with Sikhs, Hindus, Copts, and Sufis has been very different. This leads me to believe that it must be something about Muslims. Or maybe it's something about Arabs and Afghanis. This may well be simply prejudice, and I don't want to be prejudiced. The local lawyers tell each other that Muslims believe that you don't have to tell the truth to Infidels. Maybe this is just an urban legend. At any rate, I don't remember seeing anything written by cultural anthropologists about it, but would like to read it if there is any. I have a lot of respect for cultural anthropology. That was my original major in undergrad. Heggy seems to be struggling with, grappling with, similar questions. Maybe my client perceives himself as a brave, heroic man, who refuses to capitulate. I do like him, and admire him, and think he was treated badly, but his position was unreasonable. Truth and justice lay somewhere in between his position, and the other side. He did not want to hear that. I let him have his say in court. I let him express himself fully, say everything he wanted to say. The judge did not believe him, and slammed him, as I predicted. Afterwards, he and his wife said that the judge did not have God with him. I told them that God does what God does, there is no predicting what God wants. Thinking that God is on your side is hubristic, but I didn't want to get into that. I wasn't so sure he was lying, by the way. I think he believed what he was saying at the moment he said it. The opposing counsel certainly expended a lot of energy cross-examining him. Maybe the judge was prejudiced, after all. It's so hard to know what the truth is when you are in court. At least for me. Some people think they know but it always troubles me.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (1803)	11/1/2002 9:58:33 PM
From: frankw1900	Respond to of 6901

Nadine, CB, You might find this interesting: iran-bulletin.org [The site doesn't work well with netscape] These guys are socialists, indeed marxists, but nonetheless there are some interesting views on Islam and women, and the possibility of Islam managing to accommodate modernity. (Which i find odd because I don't see marxism as a modernist thing at all and I find their prescription for repairing the economic damage islamism does terrifyingly awful).