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To: Condor who wrote (55869)	11/5/2002 7:53:37 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Needn't ever worry that the US will be understood as nonthreatening. Uh-uh...never Since the US will always been seen as threatening, Condor, much better that it be seen as an effectual threatener rather than a weak and ineffectual one that can be bullied by the likes of France. The ineffectual threatener, the paper tiger, lives in the worst of all worlds, inviting contempt as well as hatred.

To: Condor who wrote (55869)	11/5/2002 11:04:27 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

We cannot ignore the fact that the entire world is presently watching the US manipulate and tweak a resolution that will go before the UN and its intention is to allow the US (not the world) a freehand to go to war on Iraq. They're seeing the US going to the trouble of getting UN approval. That should be encouraging to them. As for manipulating and tweaking - that is just the way human affairs work I think. The world knows most countries don't agree with allowing this freehand and watch this performance. It is hard to see how anything could make matters worse. The Islamic Arab world will no doubt understand quite clearly that what the US wants to do, it will do. The US should do what it, after careful consideration, wants to do. Other countries shouldn't be under the delusion that the US is under their control. Seeing this clearly shouldn't make things worse and might even improve things. Needn't ever worry that the US will be understood as nonthreatening. Uh-uh...never. The US has not been a bully to the Arab world, excepting perhaps toward Saddam and Kaddafi who deserved it. It has usually bent over backwards to be nonthreatening. The article I posted gave examples to illustrate this. I think it actually soft-pedaled it's argument on this point. The article could have made that point more forcefully. I agree that our past policy of always striving to be nonthreatening has encouraged actions against our interests.