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To: GST who wrote (149799)	11/8/2002 8:22:43 PM
From: hueyone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

GST: When I was here a month ago, you were highly critical of the Bush administration----suggesting that Cheney had put the administration in a hole that it was unlikely to get out of. One of the the things you seemed particularly critical of was the administration's failure to get any cooperation from the United Nations and their go it alone style. At the time I suggested that it was far too early to brand the administration's policy vis a vis Iraq a failure and suggested we see how this chess game plays out. It now seems that the administration has accomplished one of the very things that you were most critical about them for not achieving, that is international cooperation via the United Nations. In light of the fact that the President got nearly everything he wanted in today's resolution, it would certainly seem that a reasonable question to ask is whether the administrations' seemingly hard nose, go it alone tough talk was indeed part of a larger, tough negotiation strategy? One thing that confused me about your posts was your resounding criticism of the Bush foreign policy team as incompetent, (although the criticism may have been leveled mostly at Cheney and Bush) but praise for George Bush seniors' team which comprised three of the same principals---Cheney, Powell and Rumsfeld. Your considerable praise for their efforts in 1990 seemed contradictory with your current view of Cheney as some kind of fool. Surely this team surveyed the scene in 2002 and assessed the odds of getting a coalition or UN support through various courses of actions and chose what they perceived to be the best course of action. The bottom line is that it appears to be the case that the President got largely what he wanted from the UN today. Whether he got the results by strong arming, threats, backtracking, appeasement or whatever means, I really don't care, the point is he got results. GST---Bush is playing damage control -- he delegated too much to Cheney on Iraq. Cheney put Bush in the hole and he is not out of it yet. siliconinvestor.com GST---This whole ruse is a farce born out of thinking that Dick Cheney knew what he was doing when he went for the throat and presented "regime change by invasion" as the key element of our foreign policy vis-a-vis Iraq and destroyed any hope we had of building a coalition to go after Saddam. Message 18146733 Huey---I haven't been following the current Iraq crises as closely as I should, but I suspect it is way too early to call the administration's policy vis a vis Iraq a failure. Let's wait and see how this chess game plays out. JMO, Huey Message 18146733 GST---You can blow the opening moves and still win the game -- but to try, as Bob does so often, to pitch the handling of Iraq as an intelligent and well-planned strategy that is yielding great results is laughable. Cheney et al have been doing what they wanted to do for a long time -- marginalize the UN and go for the throat of countries that give us trouble in places where we have strategic interests -- the mid-east being a prime example.---GST I still think it is too early to call the Bush foreign policy vis a vis Iraq a success or failure, but I think we need to give Bush and his foreign policy team credit for winning that UN vote today. If I have totally misrepresented your position I am sure you will let me know.<g> Best, Huey