To: epicure who wrote (66749 ) 11/16/2002 12:03:34 PM From: E Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 82486 It doesn't matter to you whether CH caused, sought, extended, and enjoyed the social opprobrium his chosen getting-off behavior caused. How funny that you call him its victim then, rather than its designer, perpetrator, and beneficiary. Poet did not enjoy the stalking and threats. She was frightened, sickened, and finally made ill by them. X: She was made ill by them. She has PTSD. CH knew about this vulnerability. Her descent into illness is what caused her husband to make his plea to CH. I know that Poet's illness is of no importance to you, as is CH's enjoyment of the dynamic he sought. It is Alice in Wonderland, in your head. The stalking, sexual allusions, and threats were CH's, they were to get CH off, not Poet. She did not design his pursuit of her, or his threats. She asked him many times to stop posting to her. She told him he was frightening her. She told him repeatedly that she had nothing for him. He continued to stalk and threaten her. I assume that she was gratified and comforted by the support she got from even CH's former friends and allies who were morally offended at his behavior. Duh. And her fixation after she recovered on getting an apology from him, and her offer to forgive the behavior if he would acknowledge it and apologize, I consider neurotic, or at least self-destructive. (She does too.) Check these out:Message 16278923 Jeff tells CH to lay off:siliconinvestor.com Poet to CH after he sues to keep posting toorabout her:Message 16672729 Rambi's "weird and obsessive need to upset her personally" post:Message 16675604 Survey on "our young men in uniform" lie:Message 16690296 Roller Skate and Keys. Poet had done nothing to elicit the harassment.siliconinvestor.com Poet refuses to give CH permission to post ems. She has not posted toorabout him "for months."Message 17391048 CH's FOUR replies to the above. "We have a relationship" etc.siliconinvestor.com Bill asks CH to desist:Message 17391268 Five months after Poet's last post to him, CH posts his "missing me" post:Message 17388001 Poet's gets sick, says goodbye:Message 17483180